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− | | Martin || 50% || || 50% | + | | Martin || 50% || [done] User Actions CQ; multi-subsystem-discussion [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=174495 bug 174495]; 3 Bugzillas against CDT; || 50% |
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− | | DaveD || 100% || UI/Non-UI || 100% | + | | DaveD || 100% || UI/Non-UI; Made stuff internal || 100% |
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− | | DaveM || 10% || | + | | DaveM || 10% || Made stuff internal || 50% |
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− | | Kushal || 50% || | + | | Kushal || 50% || EFS; [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=179850 179850] Streams on Subsystem Layer || |
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| Javier || 50% || SD submission || 50% | | Javier || 50% || SD submission || 50% | ||
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=== Upcoming Work === | === Upcoming Work === | ||
* See also [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Mar-2007#Upcoming_Work|Last Meeting]] for notes | * See also [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 20-Mar-2007#Upcoming_Work|Last Meeting]] for notes | ||
− | * ''' | + | * '''M6 must-have issues''' |
+ | ** NLS changes: mostly IBM | ||
+ | ** Source tgz delivery? | ||
+ | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/showdependencytree.cgi?id=170922 170922] (DaveM, DaveD) '''Making stuff internal''' | ||
+ | *** '''take care of "discouraged access" warnings!''' | ||
+ | *** rse.core: Should RSESystemType be public? | ||
+ | *** files.ui: Activator should be internal. FileResources should be internal? Dialogs should be internal? SystemFileNewConnectionWizardPage - why not with ConnectorService, or dstore? SystemFileFilterStringEditPane should be public to derive from? | ||
+ | *** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170920 170920] rse.logging is this really complete? Should the bug be split up or the summary changed? | ||
+ | *** processes.ui: Clean-up Manifest (export with ;x-internal="true"); Fix doc.isv; Kill etc actions should be internal. Activator should be internal. SystemProcessFilterStringEditPane should be public to derive from? | ||
+ | *** shells.ui: Activator should be internal; SystemViewRemoteOutputAdapter is public but SystemViewRemoteErrorAdapter not? Why is SystemCommandsView public? | ||
+ | *** subsystems.files.dstore: Almost everything internal, good! What about SearchResultsChangeListener, StatusChangeListener? What about package.html? | ||
+ | *** subsystems.shells.core: What about OutputRefreshJob, its currently needed | ||
+ | *** rse.ui/filters: Can we remove SystemFilterStartHere? Looks like convenience, since it is internal now can we remove it? Should SystemFilter be public so clients can derive from it? | ||
+ | *** rse.ui/UI: OK to have massagers internal? Shouldn't these be re-usable by clients? | ||
+ | **** SystemNewConnectionAction - how to officially do it (needed by remotecdt); | ||
+ | **** SystemResources to be internal? (Or we cannot change strings!) | ||
+ | **** Why did the RefreshAction remain public? Why did the dialogs remain public? | ||
+ | **** Why did the SystemFilterWorkWithFilterPoolsTreeViewer remain public? | ||
+ | **** Why did ui.filters.actions package remain public? Why ui.filters.dialogs? | ||
+ | **** Why did rse.ui.propertypages remain public? | ||
+ | **** Why is SystemTableView publi? | ||
+ | **** What to do with SystemCommunicationsDaemon? | ||
+ | ** Do importexport and useractions have API? Stuff we need to make internal? | ||
+ | ** UI/Non-UI Refactorings | ||
+ | *** connectorservice have some Javadoc stil referring to SuperAbstractConnectorService | ||
+ | ** '''API Changes''' | ||
+ | *** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=179910 179910] (Kushal) removing unnecessary upload/download - broke importexport | ||
+ | ** [[TM 2.0 M6 Testing]] - What changes / features need to be especially tested? | ||
+ | *** "internal" refactorings; new connectorservice; encodings; EFS; | ||
+ | |||
+ | * '''Plan Items''' | ||
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170909 170909] (DaveD, Kushal) User Actions: Still waiting for IP review. Found many icons related to UA and import/export in rse.ui which will need to be moved. | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170909 170909] (DaveD, Kushal) User Actions: Still waiting for IP review. Found many icons related to UA and import/export in rse.ui which will need to be moved. | ||
** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170923 170923] (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting: Conn.Svc almost done, others will fall nicely into place afterwards. rse.ui/plugin.xml/systemTypes need to go to core | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=170923 170923] (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting: Conn.Svc almost done, others will fall nicely into place afterwards. rse.ui/plugin.xml/systemTypes need to go to core | ||
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** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=166338 166338] Asynchronous '''Callbacks''' - '''AI Martin''' to start | ** [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=166338 166338] Asynchronous '''Callbacks''' - '''AI Martin''' to start | ||
** '''expandTo()''' - '''AI Martin''' probably connected to async callbacks, non-UI multi path query and event changes for Refresh | ** '''expandTo()''' - '''AI Martin''' probably connected to async callbacks, non-UI multi path query and event changes for Refresh | ||
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* '''Other Business''' | * '''Other Business''' | ||
** '''Cleanup''': JDT Cleanup wizard, '''AI Martin start with one plugin''' | ** '''Cleanup''': JDT Cleanup wizard, '''AI Martin start with one plugin''' | ||
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=== Communications === | === Communications === | ||
* '''Europa Requirements''' | * '''Europa Requirements''' | ||
− | ** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects''' | + | ** '''Avoiding non-API from other projects''' -> CDT bugzillas [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=178831 178831], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=178832 178832], [https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=178835 178835] |
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** Update Wiki to explain whether SDK contains examples --> '''AI Martin''' wait for Platform and adapt | ** Update Wiki to explain whether SDK contains examples --> '''AI Martin''' wait for Platform and adapt | ||
* For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M6) -- 54 right now | * For bugs, see the [http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/development/bug_process.php bug process page] (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M6) -- 54 right now | ||
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* [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Mar-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | * [[DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 13-Mar-2007#Action_Items|Last Meeting]] Action Items | ||
* '''Everyone''' - Review recent pending API change bugzilla's and comment on them if there are any issues | * '''Everyone''' - Review recent pending API change bugzilla's and comment on them if there are any issues | ||
− | * '''DaveD''' - | + | * '''DaveD''' - Refactoring UI/Non-UI |
− | * '''DaveM''' - | + | * '''DaveM''' - Talk with DaveD regarding open-sourcing Remote Source Lookup and Java Launch; |
− | * '''Kushal''' - EFS | + | * '''Kushal''' - EFS; Encoding Tests; Allocate Mac for nightly tests; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests |
− | * '''Martin''' - | + | * '''Martin''' - Website updates (M5, Eclipsecon, Webinar); Work on Refresh, ExpandTo, Callbacks; Adopt new Platform SSH organization; Replace systemType name by IRSESystemType in IHost; Integrate Terminal in RSE; Test JDT Cleanup Wizard on one plugin; Update feature.properties for Europa; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; RXTX contribution; |
* '''Javier''' - Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests | * '''Javier''' - Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests | ||
* '''Ted''' - | * '''Ted''' - |
Revision as of 06:34, 29 March 2007
Meeting Title: | TM Committer Phone Meeting |
Date & Time: | Thursday Mar 29, 2007 at 1500 UTC |
Dial-in: | International +44 (0)1452 567588 North America +1 (866) 6161738 (toll free) UK National 08712460713 Passcode: 0587322148 # |
MartinO to start conference call - please dial in using the numbers above.
Please be available for Skype Chat in parallel to the call. MartinO will start Skype chat just prior to call.
Skype fallback dial-in - only if less than 5 participants: martin.oberhuber, ddykstal (or david_dykstal), david-k-mcknight, kushal.munir, javier.montalvoorus, tedatteddotnet, michael_scharf, and uwe.stieber.
Contents
Attendees
- IBM - Dave McKnight, Dave Dykstal, Kushal Munir
- Symbian - Javier Montalvo Orús
- Wind River - Martin Oberhuber, Uwe Stieber, Michael Scharf, (Ted Williams)
This is an Open call, so anyone else can join (though we expect the talk to be interesting for committers only).
Notes
- Our top goals
- Grow the Communities - active users and adopters --> tutorial, docs, mailinglist help: being responsive
- Get the APIs Right --> enable public API discussion --> ISV docs, Wiki API discussion, [api] bugzilla's
- Get our Processes in place --> JUnit, nightly builds, infocenter, update site
News & Review Action Items
Martin | 50% | [done] User Actions CQ; multi-subsystem-discussion bug 174495; 3 Bugzillas against CDT; | 50% |
DaveD | 100% | UI/Non-UI; Made stuff internal | 100% |
DaveM | 10% | Made stuff internal | 50% |
Kushal | 50% | EFS; 179850 Streams on Subsystem Layer | |
Javier | 50% | SD submission | 50% |
Ted | 0% | - | 0% |
Uwe | 5% | - | 5% |
Michael | 20% | Terminal Performance | 20% |
Upcoming Work
- See also Last Meeting for notes
- M6 must-have issues
- NLS changes: mostly IBM
- Source tgz delivery?
- 170922 (DaveM, DaveD) Making stuff internal
- take care of "discouraged access" warnings!
- rse.core: Should RSESystemType be public?
- files.ui: Activator should be internal. FileResources should be internal? Dialogs should be internal? SystemFileNewConnectionWizardPage - why not with ConnectorService, or dstore? SystemFileFilterStringEditPane should be public to derive from?
- 170920 rse.logging is this really complete? Should the bug be split up or the summary changed?
- processes.ui: Clean-up Manifest (export with ;x-internal="true"); Fix doc.isv; Kill etc actions should be internal. Activator should be internal. SystemProcessFilterStringEditPane should be public to derive from?
- shells.ui: Activator should be internal; SystemViewRemoteOutputAdapter is public but SystemViewRemoteErrorAdapter not? Why is SystemCommandsView public?
- subsystems.files.dstore: Almost everything internal, good! What about SearchResultsChangeListener, StatusChangeListener? What about package.html?
- subsystems.shells.core: What about OutputRefreshJob, its currently needed
- rse.ui/filters: Can we remove SystemFilterStartHere? Looks like convenience, since it is internal now can we remove it? Should SystemFilter be public so clients can derive from it?
- rse.ui/UI: OK to have massagers internal? Shouldn't these be re-usable by clients?
- SystemNewConnectionAction - how to officially do it (needed by remotecdt);
- SystemResources to be internal? (Or we cannot change strings!)
- Why did the RefreshAction remain public? Why did the dialogs remain public?
- Why did the SystemFilterWorkWithFilterPoolsTreeViewer remain public?
- Why did ui.filters.actions package remain public? Why ui.filters.dialogs?
- Why did rse.ui.propertypages remain public?
- Why is SystemTableView publi?
- What to do with SystemCommunicationsDaemon?
- Do importexport and useractions have API? Stuff we need to make internal?
- UI/Non-UI Refactorings
- connectorservice have some Javadoc stil referring to SuperAbstractConnectorService
- API Changes
- 179910 (Kushal) removing unnecessary upload/download - broke importexport
- TM 2.0 M6 Testing - What changes / features need to be especially tested?
- "internal" refactorings; new connectorservice; encodings; EFS;
- Plan Items
- 170909 (DaveD, Kushal) User Actions: Still waiting for IP review. Found many icons related to UA and import/export in rse.ui which will need to be moved.
- 170923 (DaveD) UI/Non-UI splitting: Conn.Svc almost done, others will fall nicely into place afterwards. rse.ui/plugin.xml/systemTypes need to go to core
- 170932 (DaveD) Default Persistence Provider: mostly non-API
- 170936 (DaveD) Macintosh - machine for unittests? - AI Kushal
- 170926 (DaveM) Improve IFileService: mostly done; Returnvalue for copy; Streams on the Subsystem Layer - AI Kushal file 2 bugs
- 150498 (Javier) More service-oriented; Multiple subsystems of the same kind - Javier raised bug 174495; 176490 new "dynamic wizard" request, see also "Improve SystemType" below
- 170911 (Javier) Discovery
- 170916 (Kushal) EFS
- 163820 (Kushal) Encodings - AI Kushal UnitTests
- 170915 (Martin) Adopt 3.3 Concepts: Jsch
- 170922 (Martin) Optimize RSE API: ISystemRegistry
- 170910 (Martin) Integrate Terminal
- 170918 (Martin) Improve SystemType and Wizard: AI Martin Replace Name by IRSESystemType in IHost and wherever possible. AI DaveD Start persisting systemType id in addition to name
- if() queries -> these are implementation details later, even replacing Name by Properties since the systemType does have Properties already
- Other API things not directly marked as plan item
- Other Business
- Cleanup: JDT Cleanup wizard, AI Martin start with one plugin
- 170915 (DaveM) Getting rid of Platform "internal" access
- add unit tests for all new or modified API
Priorities are folded into the Action Items below
Other Stuff to Do
- 1. Play well with the Platform
- capabilities; icu4j; Orbit; ssh prefs; drag&drop
- retargetable actions/commands instead of actionsets;
- 2. Improve overall quality (unit tests; special characters; long filenames; background jobs; parallel access; logging; ...)
- 3. New Features
- Persistence-as-xmlfile; Service enablement
- 4. Cleanup/Optimization
- Remove RSE Performance Logging; place contents of logging into core
- Reduce number of plugins (once UI/Non-UI separation is done, and once we have Capabilities: have e.g. ssh.core and ssh.ui but not more)
- Move org.eclipse.rse.connectorservice.local into org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core
- org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.core (collapse files.core, processes.core, shells.core)
- org.eclipse.rse.subsystems.dstore (collapse files.dstore, processes.dsore, shells.dstore)
- Build Process Improvements
- Orbit bundles to be added differently
- Unittests to run every night (Ted's scripts)
- Version Number Changes to be done by Martin
- 174945 General code cleanup - get rid of unused icons, comments, properties
- Update Copyright Year to 2007 if you happen to think about it
- Please continue on Compiler Warnings
Communications
- Update Wiki to explain whether SDK contains examples --> AI Martin wait for Platform and adapt
- For bugs, see the bug process page (assigned to inbox, plan items, status new, hi-priority, API, open with patch, assigned to M6) -- 54 right now
- Change Requests
- Vacations, Holidays etc.
- Free discussion -- feelings, comments, critics
- IBM contribution of Remote Source Locators and Remote Java Launch - AI DaveM talk with DaveD, get this started
Action Items
- Last Meeting Action Items
- Everyone - Review recent pending API change bugzilla's and comment on them if there are any issues
- DaveD - Refactoring UI/Non-UI
- DaveM - Talk with DaveD regarding open-sourcing Remote Source Lookup and Java Launch;
- Kushal - EFS; Encoding Tests; Allocate Mac for nightly tests; Talk to DaveD re Comm Server; Bugs & Unit Tests
- Martin - Website updates (M5, Eclipsecon, Webinar); Work on Refresh, ExpandTo, Callbacks; Adopt new Platform SSH organization; Replace systemType name by IRSESystemType in IHost; Integrate Terminal in RSE; Test JDT Cleanup Wizard on one plugin; Update feature.properties for Europa; Migrate build to Ted's scripts; Bugs & Unit Tests; Personal Interviews via Skype; RXTX contribution;
- Javier - Improve SD; Bugs & Unit Tests
- Ted -
- Michael - Terminal Performance Improvements
- Uwe -
Next Meeting
- TM 2.0 Testing on 3-Apr-2007
- DSDP/TM/Committer Phone Meeting 3-Apr-2007 at 1600 UTC - attention: DST change in Europe: now we keep the meeting time for Europe but in US and Canada it is 1 hour earlier!
- DSDP/TM/Phone Meeting 4-Apr-2007 open phone call
- TM 2.0M6 - 6-Apr-2007
- TM Webinar pre-call on 10-Apr-2007; webinar on 12-Apr-2007