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*Motorola (Christian Kurzke, Eric Cloninger, Ruth, Daniel Franco, Guilherme) | *Motorola (Christian Kurzke, Eric Cloninger, Ruth, Daniel Franco, Guilherme) | ||
*Nokia (Ronnie King, Gorkem (lead ERCP), Warren Paul) | *Nokia (Ronnie King, Gorkem (lead ERCP), Warren Paul) | ||
| − | *RIM (Adam Abramski, Jon Dearden, Ken Wallis) | + | *RIM (Adam Abramski, Jon Dearden, Ken Wallis) |
*Symbian (Paul Beusterien) | *Symbian (Paul Beusterien) | ||
| − | *Eclipse Foundation (Ian, Doug Schaeffer) | + | *Eclipse Foundation (Ian, Doug Schaeffer) |
| + | <br> | ||
| + | Project representatives: | ||
| − | + | *MTJ: Christian Kurzke | |
| − | * MTJ: Christian Kurzke | + | *Sequoyah: Eric Cloninger |
| − | * Sequoyah: Eric Cloninger | + | *CDT: Doug Schaeffer |
| − | * CDT: Doug Schaeffer | + | *ERCP: Gorkem |
| − | * ERCP: | + | |
= Agenda = | = Agenda = | ||
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== Roll Call and Review of the Agenda (5 Minutes) == | == Roll Call and Review of the Agenda (5 Minutes) == | ||
| − | = Pulsar review of scope = | + | = Pulsar review of scope = |
| − | In the 2009 review, we had 3 main topics: | + | In the 2009 review, we had 3 main topics: MTJ, CDT and WebTooling, from which we accomplished the MTJ package. |
| − | Due to significant changes in the mobile landscape, we should refocus. maybe: | + | Due to significant changes in the mobile landscape, we should refocus. maybe: |
| − | * Java (incl. J2ME, RIM, Android) | + | *Java (incl. J2ME, RIM, Android) |
| − | * Native (Symbian, Android Native, Meego?) | + | *Native (Symbian, Android Native, Meego?) |
| − | * Web (Symbian Web UI, etc.) | + | *Web (Symbian Web UI, etc.) |
| − | Ronnie: | + | Ronnie: Should we maintain the focus of Pulsar on a "product". |
| − | DougS: | + | DougS: proposed a new "mobile" Platform focused plugin fest. |
| − | John D: What is our long-term goal, are we creating products or frameworks. | + | John D: What is our long-term goal, are we creating products or frameworks. |
| − | Ian: | + | Ian: Successful example: Eclipse "Team Provider" Framework |
| − | Ken: | + | Ken: Pulsar is solving a too "high level" problem, common code is not used enough. Pulsar should be more of a "portal" |
| − | EricC: Who creates a product?: | + | EricC: Who creates a product?: RIM, not strongly branded bundled, and includes a update site. Motodev Studio, installer & update site, Nokia: similar, branded tool. |
| − | = Driving Commonality = | + | = Driving Commonality = |
| − | what would member companies want from Pulsar | + | what would member companies want from Pulsar |
| − | Nokia: | + | Nokia: Interest in MTJ (for S40) and Native Symbian development. Also discussons with Meego. |
| − | * interest in Native, C++ development: | + | |
| + | * interest in Native, C++ development: | ||
** Project Build (signing, multiple targets), | ** Project Build (signing, multiple targets), | ||
** Discovery of devices (over BT, USB, wifi, etc), | ** Discovery of devices (over BT, USB, wifi, etc), | ||
| − | ** Publishing to developer portals | + | ** Publishing to developer portals |
** tooling around Meego | ** tooling around Meego | ||
| − | * MTJ | + | * MTJ |
** MIDP 3 support, which would include CDC support | ** MIDP 3 support, which would include CDC support | ||
| − | Symbian Foundation: | + | Symbian Foundation: |
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* Native - similar to Nokia. | * Native - similar to Nokia. | ||
| − | * Web Tooling | + | * Web Tooling |
| − | ** Symbian is looking to fund development of a Web Development environment | + | ** Symbian is looking to fund development of a Web Development environment |
| + | *** Chrominum based, support development cycle including packaging, deploy, debug, etc. | ||
| + | ** very cross platform. | ||
| + | ** Ian reached out to JIL (no interest) and BONDI (curious) | ||
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| + | Sony Ericsson: | ||
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| + | * currently doesnt have a branded product | ||
| + | * interest to improve Android Tooling | ||
| + | ** e.g. Profiling, Code coverage, UI development | ||
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| + | RIM: | ||
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| + | * Java | ||
| + | ** J2ME+Rim | ||
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| + | * Web | ||
| + | ** Widgets (packaged HTML/Javascript) packaging, deployment | ||
| + | ** First class application on device | ||
| + | ** shares packaging, signing, etc. | ||
| + | ** uses JSDT, XUL runner | ||
| + | ** has proprietary debugging protocol between JavaScript engine and IDE (emulator working, device planned) | ||
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| + | == Possible common features == | ||
| + | |||
| + | * Possible SDK management | ||
| + | * Signing | ||
| + | * Common UI code/Frameworks for common tasks | ||
| + | ** Could possibly be shared from WTP project, which already has abstractions / connectors to server infrastructure | ||
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Contents
Face to Face meeting at EclipseCon 2010
Attendees
- Motorola (Christian Kurzke, Eric Cloninger, Ruth, Daniel Franco, Guilherme)
- Nokia (Ronnie King, Gorkem (lead ERCP), Warren Paul)
- RIM (Adam Abramski, Jon Dearden, Ken Wallis)
- Symbian (Paul Beusterien)
- Eclipse Foundation (Ian, Doug Schaeffer)
Project representatives:
- MTJ: Christian Kurzke
- Sequoyah: Eric Cloninger
- CDT: Doug Schaeffer
- ERCP: Gorkem
Agenda
Roll Call and Review of the Agenda (5 Minutes)
Pulsar review of scope
In the 2009 review, we had 3 main topics: MTJ, CDT and WebTooling, from which we accomplished the MTJ package.
Due to significant changes in the mobile landscape, we should refocus. maybe:
- Java (incl. J2ME, RIM, Android)
- Native (Symbian, Android Native, Meego?)
- Web (Symbian Web UI, etc.)
Ronnie: Should we maintain the focus of Pulsar on a "product".
DougS: proposed a new "mobile" Platform focused plugin fest.
John D: What is our long-term goal, are we creating products or frameworks.
Ian: Successful example: Eclipse "Team Provider" Framework
Ken: Pulsar is solving a too "high level" problem, common code is not used enough. Pulsar should be more of a "portal"
EricC: Who creates a product?: RIM, not strongly branded bundled, and includes a update site. Motodev Studio, installer & update site, Nokia: similar, branded tool.
Driving Commonality
what would member companies want from Pulsar
Nokia: Interest in MTJ (for S40) and Native Symbian development. Also discussons with Meego.
- interest in Native, C++ development:
- Project Build (signing, multiple targets),
- Discovery of devices (over BT, USB, wifi, etc),
- Publishing to developer portals
- tooling around Meego
- MTJ
- MIDP 3 support, which would include CDC support
Symbian Foundation:
- Native - similar to Nokia.
- Web Tooling
- Symbian is looking to fund development of a Web Development environment
- Chrominum based, support development cycle including packaging, deploy, debug, etc.
- very cross platform.
- Ian reached out to JIL (no interest) and BONDI (curious)
- Symbian is looking to fund development of a Web Development environment
Sony Ericsson:
- currently doesnt have a branded product
- interest to improve Android Tooling
- e.g. Profiling, Code coverage, UI development
RIM:
- Java
- J2ME+Rim
- Web
- Widgets (packaged HTML/Javascript) packaging, deployment
- First class application on device
- shares packaging, signing, etc.
- uses JSDT, XUL runner
- has proprietary debugging protocol between JavaScript engine and IDE (emulator working, device planned)
Possible common features
- Possible SDK management
- Signing
- Common UI code/Frameworks for common tasks
- Could possibly be shared from WTP project, which already has abstractions / connectors to server infrastructure