Talk:COSMOSSummit-11-Apr-08

Attendees

Tania, Jimmy, Jack, Martin, Paul, Charlie, Rich, Bill, Srinivas, Toni, Don, Mark, David, Jason, Leonard, Joel, Sheldon

DC Discussion:

At one time we had a significant focus on Muse, so we should figure out where we stand. Should we remove what was done before or can we refocus it? Is there any use for the WSDM work in COSMOS 1.1?
What we did with the Muse code was not compatible with the spec. We must have conformant wire formats for the MDR API, and Muse doesn't provide that. We looked at whether or not we could "hack" Muse to make it compatible, but determined that this would not be a maintainable strategy. So we had to look at reasonable alternatives, and that's where JAX-WS came in; however, JAX-WS is not there and won't be there in time for COSMOS 1.0. We decided to go ahead with JAX-WS anyway, although we are now running into legal issues with Axis2.

Is Muse dead or is it just sleeping? Do CA or IBM have any interest in WSDM these days? If so, where is the reference implementation going to be if it won't be in Muse?
From CA's perspective, WSDM could be of interest in the post-1.0 timeframe. A lot of products are not fully WSDM enabled yet. There is some interest, however, there is not much in the products now. Perhaps this will change in the next 6-8 months.
The original focus was management enablement. Are we going to walk away from these standards and then pick them up later? Don could convince CompuWare to invest in that area, but COSMOS has no interest then we don't want to build more code to throw away.

Could we make a containment vessel that could host both of those things to support those web services management (WS-Man & WSDM) standards with some abstracted API? Since WSUM is not progressing quickly, if we work with the Muse project and WS-Man project to get some use out of both of them without a lot of agony, that may be useful.