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| − | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | |
| − | | open OProfile bugs: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist. | + | | style="color: #407a40" | open OProfile bugs: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=OProfile&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= |
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| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | open Valgrind bugs: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist. | + | | style="color: #407a40" | open Valgrind bugs: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=Valgrind&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= |
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| − | | project plan: http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project- plan.php?projectid=technology.linux- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | project plan: http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=technology.linux-distros |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:02:23|03:02]] |
| − | | we have very little in the way of text in the project plan | + | |- id="t03:02:38" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | we have very little in the way of text in the project plan |
| − | | and I need to fix up the bug queries to make them reflect items planned | + | || [[#t03:02:38|03:02]] |
| − | | 03:03 | + | |- id="t03:03:33" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | and I need to fix up the bug queries to make them reflect items planned |
| − | | let's start with you, ksebasti | + | || [[#t03:03:33|03:03]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:03:39" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | what do you plan to do for OProfile? | + | | style="color: #407a40" | let's start with you, ksebasti |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:03:39|03:03]] |
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| − | | we should collect all items (even long-term ones) in bugzilla | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | what do you plan to do for OProfile? |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:03:47|03:03]] |
| − | | then prioritize per milestone/release | + | |- id="t03:03:54" |
| − | | 03:04 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | we should collect all items (even long-term ones) in bugzilla |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:03:54|03:03]] |
| − | | so let's file some | + | |- id="t03:04:04" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | then prioritize per milestone/release |
| − | | sounds good | + | || [[#t03:04:04|03:04]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:04:06" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | and look at the open ones | + | | style="color: #407a40" | so let's file some |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:04:06|03:04]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:04:11" |
| − | | well after the user guide im doing now (which i think is looking pretty good :D http://wiki.eclipse.org/ | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #42427e" | sounds good |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:04:11|03:04]] |
| − | | :) | + | |- id="t03:04:11" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | and look at the open ones |
| − | | and that's bug ~272039 | + | || [[#t03:04:11|03:04]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:04:22" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | Bug 272039 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | | style="color: #818144" | well after the user guide im doing now (which i think is looking pretty good :D http://wiki.eclipse.org/Linux_Tools_Project/OProfile/User_Guide) |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:04:22|03:04]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:04:27" |
| − | | i plan to start on ~265794 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | :) |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:04:27|03:04]] |
| − | | Bug 265794 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | |- id="t03:04:44" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | and that's bug ~272039 |
| − | | okay | + | || [[#t03:04:44|03:04]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:04:45" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | jjohnstn: akurtakov_: others who may be interested: we'd love to hear your thoughts on these things | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 272039 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272039 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Write OProfile plugin user documentation |
| − | | 03:05 | + | || [[#t03:04:45|03:04]] |
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| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | crazy ideas welcome :) | + | | style="color: #818144" | i plan to start on ~265794 |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:04:51|03:04]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:04:52" |
| − | | because i can see it poking in many areas, and would make the plugin much more useful | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 265794 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265794 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - OProfile: Start/Stop profiling manually or after given duration |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:04:52|03:04]] |
| − | | ok | + | |- id="t03:04:57" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | okay |
| − | | also add some tests to the launch plugin.. | + | || [[#t03:04:57|03:04]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:05:13" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | okay | + | | style="color: #407a40" | jjohnstn: akurtakov_: others who may be interested: we'd love to hear your thoughts on these things |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:05:13|03:05]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:05:18" |
| − | | we can file these bugs afterwards | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | 03:06 | + | | style="color: #407a40" | crazy ideas welcome :) |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:05:18|03:05]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:05:27" |
| − | | let's just talk here | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #818144" | because i can see it poking in many areas, and would make the plugin much more useful |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:05:27|03:05]] |
| − | | they were mysteriously absent :) | + | |- id="t03:05:36" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ok |
| − | | heh | + | || [[#t03:05:36|03:05]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:05:52" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | what about the hot spot colourization? | + | | style="color: #818144" | also add some tests to the launch plugin.. |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:05:52|03:05]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:05:57" |
| − | | indeed that could probably make it too | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | okay |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:05:57|03:05]] |
| − | | okay | + | |- id="t03:06:01" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | we can file these bugs afterwards |
| − | | because theres already some code in a branch that didnt make it for 0.2 | + | || [[#t03:06:01|03:06]] |
| − | | 03:07 | + | |- id="t03:06:04" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | let's just talk here |
| − | | but id rather have it at a lower priority than the start/stop feature | + | || [[#t03:06:04|03:06]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:06:04" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | so for 0.3 OProfile we have: colourize hot spots, write documentation, and make the profiling manually controllable | + | | style="color: #818144" | they were mysteriously absent :) |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:06:04|03:06]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:06:15" |
| − | | so the latter two for sure | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | heh |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:06:15|03:06]] |
| − | | because its a nicety rather than a functionality thing | + | |- id="t03:06:21" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | what about the hot spot colourization? |
| − | | the first one maybe | + | || [[#t03:06:21|03:06]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:06:45" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | okay with me | + | | style="color: #818144" | indeed that could probably make it too |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:06:45|03:06]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:06:54" |
| − | | anyone else have an opinion? | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | okay |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:06:54|03:06]] |
| − | | oh the documentation should be done reasonably soon.. its already been a good chunk of days :p | + | |- id="t03:07:01" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #818144" | because theres already some code in a branch that didnt make it for 0.2 |
| − | | ok | + | || [[#t03:07:01|03:07]] |
| − | | 03:08 | + | |- id="t03:07:18" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #818144" | but id rather have it at a lower priority than the start/stop feature |
| − | | looks good to me | + | || [[#t03:07:18|03:07]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:07:26" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | overholt: unfortunately I haven't played with the OProfile plugin to have any meaningful comments....I could review the user doc though | + | | style="color: #407a40" | so for 0.3 OProfile we have: colourize hot spots, write documentation, and make the profiling manually controllable |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:07:26|03:07]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:07:32" |
| − | | jjohnstn: that's cool. what about general profiling features you'd liek to see? | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | so the latter two for sure |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:07:32|03:07]] |
| − | | also ~273116 but thats just a small bug which im pretty sure is a 1-2 line fix | + | |- id="t03:07:35" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #818144" | because its a nicety rather than a functionality thing |
| − | | Bug 273116 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | || [[#t03:07:35|03:07]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:07:37" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | with gprof coming in, we'll have to think about how to make it as general as possible | + | | style="color: #407a40" | the first one maybe |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:07:37|03:07]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:07:42" |
| − | | ksebasti: ok, we'll leave that targetted at 0.3 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | 03:09 | + | | style="color: #407a40" | okay with me |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:07:42|03:07]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:07:46" |
| − | | anything else for OProfile in 0.3? Early July is the target release date for 0.3. | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | anyone else have an opinion? |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:07:46|03:07]] |
| − | | later in the cycle when policy kit 1 is out perhaps poke into ~265646 | + | |- id="t03:07:58" |
| − | | 03:10 | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #818144" | oh the documentation should be done reasonably soon.. its already been a good chunk of days :p |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:07:58|03:07]] |
| − | | Bug 265646 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | |- id="t03:08:12" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ok |
| − | | and at some point i'd like to clean up (in the most general sense :-) the opxml code for future maintainers | + | || [[#t03:08:12|03:08]] |
| − | | 03:11 | + | |- id="t03:08:12" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #42427e" | looks good to me |
| − | | and see how much of it could perhaps be used from oprofile xml output | + | || [[#t03:08:12|03:08]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:08:14" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #488888" | jjohnstn |
| − | | and otherwise poke upstream | + | | style="color: #488888" | overholt: unfortunately I haven't played with the OProfile plugin to have any meaningful comments....I could review the user doc though |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:08:14|03:08]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:08:36" |
| − | | whoo 0.3 is gonna be fun ;) | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | jjohnstn: that's cool. what about general profiling features you'd liek to see? |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:08:36|03:08]] |
| − | | :) | + | |- id="t03:08:39" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #818144" | also ~273116 but thats just a small bug which im pretty sure is a 1-2 line fix |
| − | | so realistically we're looking at ~272039, ~273116, and ~265646 | + | || [[#t03:08:39|03:08]] |
| − | | 03:12 | + | |- id="t03:08:39" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 273116 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273116 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - vmlinux text box not repopulated |
| − | | Bug 265646 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | || [[#t03:08:39|03:08]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:08:54" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | documentation, small vmlinux fix, and start/top daemon | + | | style="color: #407a40" | with gprof coming in, we'll have to think about how to make it as general as possible |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:08:54|03:08]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:09:06" |
| − | | overholt: Punctuation bug still in place. ~272039 ~273116 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ksebasti: ok, we'll leave that targetted at 0.3 |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:09:06|03:09]] |
| − | | Bug 272039 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | |- id="t03:09:57" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | anything else for OProfile in 0.3? Early July is the target release date for 0.3. |
| − | | Bug 273116 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | || [[#t03:09:57|03:09]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:10:29" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | rcjsuen: thanks | + | | style="color: #818144" | later in the cycle when policy kit 1 is out perhaps poke into ~265646 |
| − | | 03:13 | + | || [[#t03:10:29|03:10]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:10:29" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | thats definitely doable | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 265646 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265646 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Find better way to do non-root opcontrol invocation across distros |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:10:29|03:10]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:11:11" |
| − | | ksebasti: when the gprof contribution is cleared by legal we'll have to look at integrating that | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #818144" | and at some point i'd like to clean up (in the most general sense :-) the opxml code for future maintainers |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:11:11|03:11]] |
| − | | okay, great | + | |- id="t03:11:24" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #818144" | and see how much of it could perhaps be used from oprofile xml output |
| − | | unless anyone else has thoughts about OProfile, we can move on to Valgrind | + | || [[#t03:11:24|03:11]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:11:32" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | im inclined to add ~249181 because i expect the first 2 to not take very long | + | | style="color: #818144" | and otherwise poke upstream |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:11:32|03:11]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:11:50" |
| − | | Bug 249181 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #818144" | whoo 0.3 is gonna be fun ;) |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:11:50|03:11]] |
| − | | ksebasti: let's try to get it in but not put the milestone on. and let's leave it until the other things are done | + | |- id="t03:11:52" |
| − | | 03:14 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | :) |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:11:52|03:11]] |
| − | | overholt, righto | + | |- id="t03:12:33" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | so realistically we're looking at ~272039, ~273116, and ~265646 |
| − | | as usual, if people have bugs or RFEs or whatever, file away | + | || [[#t03:12:33|03:12]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:12:35" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | thanks, ksebasti | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 265646 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265646 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Find better way to do non-root opcontrol invocation across distros |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:12:35|03:12]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:12:52" |
| − | | ebaron: let's move on to Valgrind | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | documentation, small vmlinux fix, and start/top daemon |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:12:52|03:12]] |
| − | | ebaron: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist. | + | |- id="t03:12:54" |
| − | | 03:15 | + | ! style="background-color: #8c4a4a" | rcjsuen |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #8c4a4a" | overholt: Punctuation bug still in place. ~272039 ~273116 |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:12:54|03:12]] |
| − | | overholt, thanks | + | |- id="t03:12:54" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 272039 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272039 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Write OProfile plugin user documentation |
| − | | overholt, ~272198 should be resolved now | + | || [[#t03:12:54|03:12]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:12:54" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | ebaron: all of those except "Investigate CDT Debug integration" have a target of 0.3. | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 273116 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273116 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - vmlinux text box not repopulated |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:12:54|03:12]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:13:02" |
| − | | Bug 272198 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | rcjsuen: thanks |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:13:02|03:13]] |
| − | | ebaron: sweet! | + | |- id="t03:13:30" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #818144" | thats definitely doable |
| − | | ebaron: is cachegrind mostly done? | + | || [[#t03:13:30|03:13]] |
| − | | 03:16 | + | |- id="t03:13:32" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ksebasti: when the gprof contribution is cleared by legal we'll have to look at integrating that |
| − | | overholt, yes | + | || [[#t03:13:32|03:13]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:13:33" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | ebaron: what's up next? | + | | style="color: #407a40" | okay, great |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:13:33|03:13]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:13:45" |
| − | | overholt, i was looking into birt charting, but that's more of a callgrind feature | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | unless anyone else has thoughts about OProfile, we can move on to Valgrind |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:13:45|03:13]] |
| − | | for call graphs and such | + | |- id="t03:13:48" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #818144" | im inclined to add ~249181 because i expect the first 2 to not take very long |
| − | | ok | + | || [[#t03:13:48|03:13]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:13:48" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | overholt, so long term, we'll have callgrind and helgrind support | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 249181 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=249181 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Colourize hot spots in code |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:13:48|03:13]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:14:10" |
| − | | okay | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | 03:17 | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ksebasti: let's try to get it in but not put the milestone on. and let's leave it until the other things are done |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:14:10|03:14]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:14:48" |
| − | | could one of them get into 0.3? | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #818144" | overholt, righto |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:14:48|03:14]] |
| − | | overholt, i feel there are more pressing things to take care of | + | |- id="t03:14:49" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | as usual, if people have bugs or RFEs or whatever, file away |
| − | | overholt, ~272035 | + | || [[#t03:14:49|03:14]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:14:51" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | Bug 272035 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | | style="color: #407a40" | thanks, ksebasti |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:14:51|03:14]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:14:55" |
| − | | ebaron: okay | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: let's move on to Valgrind |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:14:55|03:14]] |
| − | | overholt, this issue brought the limitations of valgrind's xml output to my attention | + | |- id="t03:15:03" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=Valgrind&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= |
| − | | ebaron: alright | + | || [[#t03:15:03|03:15]] |
| − | | 03:18 | + | |- id="t03:15:11" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, thanks |
| − | | i took a look at how other valgrind GUIs handle errors of this kind | + | || [[#t03:15:11|03:15]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:15:34" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | yeah, that'd be interesting | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, ~272198 should be resolved now |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:15:34|03:15]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:15:35" |
| − | | so that + documentation | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: all of those except "Investigate CDT Debug integration" have a target of 0.3. |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:15:35|03:15]] |
| − | | anything new in Valgrind 3.4.0 that we need to support? | + | |- id="t03:15:35" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 272198 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272198 - Linux Tools / Valgrind / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ebaron@redhat.com - Binary for test project does not always get built |
| − | | valgrind actually does have good signal handling, but this does not get reported with XML output | + | || [[#t03:15:35|03:15]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:15:41" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | ah | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: sweet! |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:15:41|03:15]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:16:02" |
| − | | overholt, just a few new options | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | 03:19 | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: is cachegrind mostly done? |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:16:02|03:16]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:16:07" |
| − | | could that make 0.3? or is it a non-issue? | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, yes |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:16:07|03:16]] |
| − | | overholt, i think moving away from xml output would be beneficial | + | |- id="t03:16:08" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: what's up next? |
| − | | ok | + | || [[#t03:16:08|03:16]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:16:31" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | will it be as parseable | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, i was looking into birt charting, but that's more of a callgrind feature |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:16:31|03:16]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:16:34" |
| − | | ? | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #42427e" | for call graphs and such |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:16:34|03:16]] |
| − | | overholt, yeah 3.4.0 options for sure can make it in, i've already implemented the code for version checking | + | |- id="t03:16:39" |
| − | | 03:20 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ok |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:16:39|03:16]] |
| − | | sweet | + | |- id="t03:16:57" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, so long term, we'll have callgrind and helgrind support |
| − | | overholt, it is parseable | + | || [[#t03:16:57|03:16]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:17:03" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | alright | + | | style="color: #407a40" | okay |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:17:03|03:17]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:17:09" |
| − | | alleyoop is one example of a GUI that doesn't use the xml output | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | could one of them get into 0.3? |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:17:09|03:17]] |
| − | | okay. I guess we should do some smoke testing with galileo stuff for 0.3, too | + | |- id="t03:17:27" |
| − | | 03:21 | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, i feel there are more pressing things to take care of |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:17:27|03:17]] |
| − | | valkyrie, the "official" GUI for valgrind does use xml, but doesn't report segfaults or other kinds of errors | + | |- id="t03:17:37" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, ~272035 |
| − | | ksebasti: that goes for you, too. we're running builds against galileo deps but doing some smoke tests would be good. | + | || [[#t03:17:37|03:17]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:17:38" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | ebaron: ok | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 272035 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272035 - Linux Tools / Valgrind / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ebaron@redhat.com - Guard against segfaults of inferior program |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:17:38|03:17]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:17:52" |
| − | | so we can target 0.4 for callgrind or helgrind (whichever comes first)? | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: okay |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:17:52|03:17]] |
| − | | overholt, sure | + | |- id="t03:17:57" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, this issue brought the limitations of valgrind's xml output to my attention |
| − | | overholt, callgrind would come first | + | || [[#t03:17:57|03:17]] |
| − | | 03:22 | + | |- id="t03:18:20" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: alright |
| − | | and 0.3 for Valgrind can kind of be some further robustification | + | || [[#t03:18:20|03:18]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:18:21" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | + docs + Valgrind 3.4.0 support | + | | style="color: #42427e" | i took a look at how other valgrind GUIs handle errors of this kind |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:18:21|03:18]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:18:27" |
| − | | + the fix for ~272198 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | yeah, that'd be interesting |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:18:27|03:18]] |
| − | | Bug 272198 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug. | + | |- id="t03:18:38" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | so that + documentation |
| − | | that works for me | + | || [[#t03:18:38|03:18]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:18:53" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | then 0.3's work is predictable and you will hopefully have time for 0.4-targeted features | + | | style="color: #407a40" | anything new in Valgrind 3.4.0 that we need to support? |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:18:53|03:18]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:18:53" |
| − | | overholt, i think it's important since most people use memcheck, i want to ensure it works perfectly | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #42427e" | valgrind actually does have good signal handling, but this does not get reported with XML output |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:18:53|03:18]] |
| − | | agreed | + | |- id="t03:18:58" |
| − | | 03:23 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ah |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:18:58|03:18]] |
| − | | I'm going to guess no one else have any opinions | + | |- id="t03:19:01" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, just a few new options |
| − | | I don't | + | || [[#t03:19:01|03:19]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:19:34" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | okay | + | | style="color: #407a40" | could that make 0.3? or is it a non-issue? |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:19:34|03:19]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:19:38" |
| − | | s/have/has | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, i think moving away from xml output would be beneficial |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:19:38|03:19]] |
| − | | I'll post this log somewhere and send the link to the mailing list | + | |- id="t03:19:51" |
| − | | 03:24 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ok |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:19:51|03:19]] |
| − | | people may come out of the woodwork with bugs then | + | |- id="t03:19:57" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | will it be as parseable |
| − | | I'm sure we'll have bugs filed once 0.2 is out, too | + | || [[#t03:19:57|03:19]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:19:58" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ? | |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:19:58|03:19]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:20:01" |
| − | | a remix feature? | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, yeah 3.4.0 options for sure can make it in, i've already implemented the code for version checking |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:20:01|03:20]] |
| − | | virtual turntables and all! | + | |- id="t03:20:08" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | sweet |
| − | | </joke> | + | || [[#t03:20:08|03:20]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:20:37" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | ah | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, it is parseable |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:20:37|03:20]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:20:42" |
| − | | for sure! | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | 03:25 | + | | style="color: #407a40" | alright |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:20:42|03:20]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:20:53" |
| − | | :D | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #42427e" | alleyoop is one example of a GUI that doesn't use the xml output |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:20:53|03:20]] |
| − | | well, we're only 30 minutes into our hour. we could discuss some other sub-projects | + | |- id="t03:21:12" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | okay. I guess we should do some smoke testing with galileo stuff for 0.3, too |
| − | | jjohnstn: we should file some bugs for your work re-writing the autotools builder | + | || [[#t03:21:12|03:21]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:21:22" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | overholt: ok | + | | style="color: #42427e" | valkyrie, the "official" GUI for valgrind does use xml, but doesn't report segfaults or other kinds of errors |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:21:22|03:21]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:21:25" |
| − | | akurtakov_: for 0.3 we'll try to ship eclipse-build in some form? | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ksebasti: that goes for you, too. we're running builds against galileo deps but doing some smoke tests would be good. |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:21:25|03:21]] |
| − | | jjohnstn: any plans for ChangeLog or libhover in 0.3? | + | |- id="t03:21:32" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: ok |
| − | | pmuldoon: I don't know if you're around, but Anithra has been approved as a committer and will likely start working directly in SVN soon | + | || [[#t03:21:32|03:21]] |
| − | | 03:26 | + | |- id="t03:21:53" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | so we can target 0.4 for callgrind or helgrind (whichever comes first)? |
| − | | overholt: do we require it to produce a working eclipse for the release | + | || [[#t03:21:53|03:21]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:21:58" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | pmuldoon: we should look at integrating your editor with the rest of the SystemTapGUI stuff | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, sure |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:21:58|03:21]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:22:04" |
| − | | akurtakov_: I wonder if that should be the demarcation point where we release it for the first time? | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | 03:27 | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, callgrind would come first |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:22:04|03:22]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:22:07" |
| − | | overholt: I would like to push libhover C++ and newlib for 0.3...for changelog I would like to take a look at an annoying CTRL+ALT+P bug | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | and 0.3 for Valgrind can kind of be some further robustification |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:22:07|03:22]] |
| − | | jjohnstn: okay, sounds good | + | |- id="t03:22:16" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | + docs + Valgrind 3.4.0 support |
| − | | overholt: well, before this point we actually have nothing :) | + | || [[#t03:22:16|03:22]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:22:25" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | akurtakov_: do you anticipate that happening in the next 8 weeks? | + | | style="color: #407a40" | + the fix for ~272198 |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:22:25|03:22]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:22:26" |
| − | | overholt: at least a partially working sdk yes | + | ! style="background-color: #854685" | KOS-MOS |
| − | | 03:28 | + | | style="color: #854685" | Bug 272198 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272198 - Linux Tools / Valgrind / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ebaron@redhat.com - Binary for test project does not always get built |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:22:26|03:22]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:22:31" |
| − | | akurtakov_: okay, well let's aim for that | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | that works for me |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:22:31|03:22]] |
| − | | overholt: i mean builds and starts but don't know what happens after that | + | |- id="t03:22:49" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | then 0.3's work is predictable and you will hopefully have time for 0.4-targeted features |
| − | | :) | + | || [[#t03:22:49|03:22]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:22:59" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | I'll file bugs for all of this stuff | + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, i think it's important since most people use memcheck, i want to ensure it works perfectly |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:22:59|03:22]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:23:03" |
| − | | akurtakov_: sure :) | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | agreed |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:23:03|03:23]] |
| − | | akurtakov_: any big plans for .spec editor? | + | |- id="t03:23:31" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | I'm going to guess no one else have any opinions |
| − | | people asked for ability to build RPMs when I presented at EclipseCon | + | || [[#t03:23:31|03:23]] |
| − | | 03:29 | + | |- id="t03:23:38" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #488888" | jjohnstn |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #488888" | I don't |
| − | | we should ensure we have bugs filed so people can hop on if they're interested | + | || [[#t03:23:38|03:23]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:23:42" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | I'll do a big triage | + | | style="color: #407a40" | okay |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:23:42|03:23]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:23:49" |
| − | | overholt: using rpmbuild? | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | s/have/has |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:23:49|03:23]] |
| − | | akurtakov_: yeah | + | |- id="t03:24:02" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | I'll post this log somewhere and send the link to the mailing list |
| − | | on another distro-related note, I'd had a bit of time to look at running the SDK tests against an installed set of packages | + | || [[#t03:24:02|03:24]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:24:10" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | overholt: i should take a look at the old plugins whether there is smth about building | + | | style="color: #407a40" | people may come out of the woodwork with bugs then |
| − | | 03:30 | + | || [[#t03:24:10|03:24]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:24:21" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | I'd love to see if we get similar results on another distro -- preferably non-RPM -- but that'll take some coercion I expect :) | + | | style="color: #407a40" | I'm sure we'll have bugs filed once 0.2 is out, too |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:24:21|03:24]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:24:34" |
| − | | akurtakov_: yeah, we should see if we can use any of that code | + | | colspan="2" | ***ksebasti thinks ebaron should add a remix feature to his plugin ;) |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:24:34|03:24]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:24:48" |
| − | | akurtakov_: perhaps target 0.4 with some rudimentary RPM building | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | a remix feature? |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:24:48|03:24]] |
| − | | not 0.3 | + | |- id="t03:24:51" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #818144" | virtual turntables and all! |
| − | | if anyone notices, I'm being conservative with estimates here | + | || [[#t03:24:51|03:24]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:24:57" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti |
| − | | I want our project to be predictable as much as possible | + | | style="color: #818144" | </joke> |
| − | | 03:31 | + | || [[#t03:24:57|03:24]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:24:59" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | hopefully that will get us some more contributors | + | | style="color: #407a40" | ah |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:24:59|03:24]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:25:02" |
| − | | or at the very least adopters | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | for sure! |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:25:02|03:25]] |
| − | | the Ericsson guys are going to start work on their tracing stuff soon, I expect | + | |- id="t03:25:16" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #42427e" | :D |
| − | | they were talking about it at EclipseCon | + | || [[#t03:25:16|03:25]] |
| − | | 03:32 | + | |- id="t03:25:19" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | well, we're only 30 minutes into our hour. we could discuss some other sub-projects |
| − | | overholt: i still want to get a form based editor but eclipse-build is taking my time | + | || [[#t03:25:19|03:25]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:25:31" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | overholt: was there ever a feature opened to make the rpm spec editor a RCP application? | + | | style="color: #407a40" | jjohnstn: we should file some bugs for your work re-writing the autotools builder |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:25:31|03:25]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:25:41" |
| − | | akurtakov_: yeah, a form-based editor would be cool | + | ! style="background-color: #488888" | jjohnstn |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #488888" | overholt: ok |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:25:41|03:25]] |
| − | | jjohnstn: no, but that' s a neat idea | + | |- id="t03:25:42" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: for 0.3 we'll try to ship eclipse-build in some form? |
| − | | I don't think the non-RPM-based distros are ready for something like stubby yet, but it would be neat. maybe after akurtakov_ & co. have eclipse-build out there, more distros will pick it up | + | || [[#t03:25:42|03:25]] |
| − | | 03:33 | + | |- id="t03:25:59" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | jjohnstn: any plans for ChangeLog or libhover in 0.3? |
| − | | then they'll be at the stage of packaging other plugins | + | || [[#t03:25:59|03:25]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:26:29" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | I'm going to write a little bit of "getting started" text for people not familiar with Eclipse plugin installation | + | | style="color: #407a40" | pmuldoon: I don't know if you're around, but Anithra has been approved as a committer and will likely start working directly in SVN soon |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:26:29|03:26]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:26:43" |
| − | | oh, and the gprof contribution is undergoing legal review | + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ |
| − | | 03:34 | + | | style="color: #4b904b" | overholt: do we require it to produce a working eclipse for the release |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:26:43|03:26]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:26:47" |
| − | | but that'll hopefully be finished soon | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | pmuldoon: we should look at integrating your editor with the rest of the SystemTapGUI stuff |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:26:47|03:26]] |
| − | | then Xavier & co. can work in SVN | + | |- id="t03:27:02" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: I wonder if that should be the demarcation point where we release it for the first time? |
| − | | maybe that can make 0.3, actually | + | || [[#t03:27:02|03:27]] |
| − | | 03:35 | + | |- id="t03:27:04" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #488888" | jjohnstn |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #488888" | overholt: I would like to push libhover C++ and newlib for 0.3...for changelog I would like to take a look at an annoying CTRL+ALT+P bug |
| − | | exherbo packaging file is quite similar in structure to spec file | + | || [[#t03:27:04|03:27]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:27:16" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | I played around with it | + | | style="color: #407a40" | jjohnstn: okay, sounds good |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:27:16|03:27]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:27:23" |
| − | | akurtakov_: I'm not familiar with exherbo | + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #4b904b" | overholt: well, before this point we actually have nothing :) |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:27:23|03:27]] |
| − | | so stubby would fit for them nicely | + | |- id="t03:27:37" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: do you anticipate that happening in the next 8 weeks? |
| − | | that's good | + | || [[#t03:27:37|03:27]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:28:00" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ |
| − | | the gprof plugin as it stands opens up gprof output files | + | | style="color: #4b904b" | overholt: at least a partially working sdk yes |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:28:00|03:28]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:28:15" |
| − | | I'd love to see a standard way of using various profiling "backends" | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: okay, well let's aim for that |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:28:15|03:28]] |
| − | | ksebasti: does post-processing analysis make sense for OProfile? | + | |- id="t03:28:26" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #4b904b" | overholt: i mean builds and starts but don't know what happens after that |
| − | | what sort of post processing? | + | || [[#t03:28:26|03:28]] |
| − | | 03:36 | + | |- id="t03:28:30" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #4b904b" | :) |
| − | | ksebasti: like saving the output in a file or something and then opening it up with an Eclipse view | + | || [[#t03:28:30|03:28]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:28:32" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | I guess I meant post-execution analysis | + | | style="color: #407a40" | I'll file bugs for all of this stuff |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:28:32|03:28]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:28:35" |
| − | | I guess that's what we do now | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: sure :) |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:28:35|03:28]] |
| − | | the sample files are generated by oprofile and already there | + | |- id="t03:28:42" |
| − | | 03:37 | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: any big plans for .spec editor? |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:28:42|03:28]] |
| − | | I guess gprof doesn't do that | + | |- id="t03:29:06" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | people asked for ability to build RPMs when I presented at EclipseCon |
| − | | we'll have to see where things overlap and where they differ | + | || [[#t03:29:06|03:29]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:29:21" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | I don't really have anything else to talk about | + | | style="color: #407a40" | we should ensure we have bugs filed so people can hop on if they're interested |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:29:21|03:29]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:29:24" |
| − | | our 0.2 release is scheduled for review on May 6th | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | 03:38 | + | | style="color: #407a40" | I'll do a big triage |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:29:24|03:29]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:29:28" |
| − | | the slides are done and so's the N&N thanks to everyone | + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #4b904b" | overholt: using rpmbuild? |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:29:28|03:29]] |
| − | | our builds are now producing p2 repositories | + | |- id="t03:29:31" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: yeah |
| − | | updates-nightly gets updated automatically with these | + | || [[#t03:29:31|03:29]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:29:53" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | you may notice there's no site.xml anymore | + | | style="color: #407a40" | on another distro-related note, I'd had a bit of time to look at running the SDK tests against an installed set of packages |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:29:53|03:29]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:30:16" |
| − | | that's because p2 repositories use content.jar (which is basically just a zip of content.xml) | + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ |
| − | | 03:39 | + | | style="color: #4b904b" | overholt: i should take a look at the old plugins whether there is smth about building |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:30:16|03:30]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:30:21" |
| − | | oh, and we're down to 0 warnings | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | I'd love to see if we get similar results on another distro -- preferably non-RPM -- but that'll take some coercion I expect :) |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:30:21|03:30]] |
| − | | cool | + | |- id="t03:30:31" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: yeah, we should see if we can use any of that code |
| − | | thanks for the work there, jjohnstn | + | || [[#t03:30:31|03:30]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:30:40" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | np | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: perhaps target 0.4 with some rudimentary RPM building |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:30:40|03:30]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:30:45" |
| − | | Hudson on build.eclipse.org is accessible to all | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | not 0.3 |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:30:45|03:30]] |
| − | | you can use your committer username/password to log in | + | |- id="t03:30:58" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | if anyone notices, I'm being conservative with estimates here |
| − | | I think I set everyone to have the permission to start builds | + | || [[#t03:30:58|03:30]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:31:08" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | they happen automatically every 6 hours | + | | style="color: #407a40" | I want our project to be predictable as much as possible |
| − | | 03:40 | + | || [[#t03:31:08|03:31]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:31:14" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | i think that's all I have to say | + | | style="color: #407a40" | hopefully that will get us some more contributors |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:31:14|03:31]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:31:22" |
| − | | anyone else? | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | or at the very least adopters |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:31:22|03:31]] |
| − | | not me | + | |- id="t03:31:55" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | the Ericsson guys are going to start work on their tracing stuff soon, I expect |
| − | | ebaron: ksebasti: akurtakov_: you all okay for 0.3? I'll file bugs and send some follow-up mail | + | || [[#t03:31:55|03:31]] |
| − | | 03:41 | + | |- id="t03:32:01" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | they were talking about it at EclipseCon |
| − | | all good | + | || [[#t03:32:01|03:32]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:32:01" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ |
| − | | giddy-up | + | | style="color: #4b904b" | overholt: i still want to get a form based editor but eclipse-build is taking my time |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:32:01|03:32]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:32:01" |
| − | | overholt, sounds good, i'm sure things will come up, but that's a good start | + | ! style="background-color: #488888" | jjohnstn |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #488888" | overholt: was there ever a feature opened to make the rpm spec editor a RCP application? |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:32:01|03:32]] |
| − | | yep, 0.3 for me is get eclipse-build as much as possible ready :) | + | |- id="t03:32:12" |
| − | |- | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: yeah, a form-based editor would be cool |
| − | | overholt, im filing some bugs i just thought of though :) | + | || [[#t03:32:12|03:32]] |
| − | |- | + | |- id="t03:32:18" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | ksebasti: thanks | + | | style="color: #407a40" | jjohnstn: no, but that' s a neat idea |
| − | |- | + | || [[#t03:32:18|03:32]] |
| − | | | + | |- id="t03:33:09" |
| − | | akurtakov_: great, looking forward to it! | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | |- | + | | style="color: #407a40" | I don't think the non-RPM-based distros are ready for something like stubby yet, but it would be neat. maybe after akurtakov_ & co. have eclipse-build out there, more distros will pick it up |
| − | | | + | || [[#t03:33:09|03:33]] |
| − | | alright, thanks for taking the time to talk, everyone. next time I'll bill it as a "project meeting" so others may be more interested in attending :) | + | |- id="t03:33:20" |
| − | | | + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt |
| − | | | + | | style="color: #407a40" | then they'll be at the stage of packaging other plugins |
| + | || [[#t03:33:20|03:33]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:33:56" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | I'm going to write a little bit of "getting started" text for people not familiar with Eclipse plugin installation | ||
| + | || [[#t03:33:56|03:33]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:34:33" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | oh, and the gprof contribution is undergoing legal review | ||
| + | || [[#t03:34:33|03:34]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:34:45" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | but that'll hopefully be finished soon | ||
| + | || [[#t03:34:45|03:34]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:34:56" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | then Xavier & co. can work in SVN | ||
| + | || [[#t03:34:56|03:34]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:35:00" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | maybe that can make 0.3, actually | ||
| + | || [[#t03:35:00|03:35]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:35:03" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ | ||
| + | | style="color: #4b904b" | exherbo packaging file is quite similar in structure to spec file | ||
| + | || [[#t03:35:03|03:35]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:35:03" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | I played around with it | ||
| + | || [[#t03:35:03|03:35]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:35:14" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: I'm not familiar with exherbo | ||
| + | || [[#t03:35:14|03:35]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:35:15" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ | ||
| + | | style="color: #4b904b" | so stubby would fit for them nicely | ||
| + | || [[#t03:35:15|03:35]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:35:19" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | that's good | ||
| + | || [[#t03:35:19|03:35]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:35:28" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | the gprof plugin as it stands opens up gprof output files | ||
| + | || [[#t03:35:28|03:35]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:35:44" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | I'd love to see a standard way of using various profiling "backends" | ||
| + | || [[#t03:35:44|03:35]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:35:59" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | ksebasti: does post-processing analysis make sense for OProfile? | ||
| + | || [[#t03:35:59|03:35]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:36:17" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti | ||
| + | | style="color: #818144" | what sort of post processing? | ||
| + | || [[#t03:36:17|03:36]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:36:30" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | ksebasti: like saving the output in a file or something and then opening it up with an Eclipse view | ||
| + | || [[#t03:36:30|03:36]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:36:42" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | I guess I meant post-execution analysis | ||
| + | || [[#t03:36:42|03:36]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:36:48" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | I guess that's what we do now | ||
| + | || [[#t03:36:48|03:36]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:37:02" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti | ||
| + | | style="color: #818144" | the sample files are generated by oprofile and already there | ||
| + | || [[#t03:37:02|03:37]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:37:10" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | I guess gprof doesn't do that | ||
| + | || [[#t03:37:10|03:37]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:37:28" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | we'll have to see where things overlap and where they differ | ||
| + | || [[#t03:37:28|03:37]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:37:53" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | I don't really have anything else to talk about | ||
| + | || [[#t03:37:53|03:37]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:38:00" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | our 0.2 release is scheduled for review on May 6th | ||
| + | || [[#t03:38:00|03:38]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:38:12" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | the slides are done and so's the N&N thanks to everyone | ||
| + | || [[#t03:38:12|03:38]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:38:26" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | our builds are now producing p2 repositories | ||
| + | || [[#t03:38:26|03:38]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:38:36" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | updates-nightly gets updated automatically with these | ||
| + | || [[#t03:38:36|03:38]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:38:45" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | you may notice there's no site.xml anymore | ||
| + | || [[#t03:38:45|03:38]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:39:05" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | that's because p2 repositories use content.jar (which is basically just a zip of content.xml) | ||
| + | || [[#t03:39:05|03:39]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:39:14" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | oh, and we're down to 0 warnings | ||
| + | || [[#t03:39:14|03:39]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:39:20" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #488888" | jjohnstn | ||
| + | | style="color: #488888" | cool | ||
| + | || [[#t03:39:20|03:39]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:39:20" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | thanks for the work there, jjohnstn | ||
| + | || [[#t03:39:20|03:39]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:39:27" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #488888" | jjohnstn | ||
| + | | style="color: #488888" | np | ||
| + | || [[#t03:39:27|03:39]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:39:38" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | Hudson on build.eclipse.org is accessible to all | ||
| + | || [[#t03:39:38|03:39]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:39:51" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | you can use your committer username/password to log in | ||
| + | || [[#t03:39:51|03:39]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:39:59" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | I think I set everyone to have the permission to start builds | ||
| + | || [[#t03:39:59|03:39]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:40:05" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | they happen automatically every 6 hours | ||
| + | || [[#t03:40:05|03:40]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:40:22" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | i think that's all I have to say | ||
| + | || [[#t03:40:22|03:40]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:40:25" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | anyone else? | ||
| + | || [[#t03:40:25|03:40]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:40:39" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #488888" | jjohnstn | ||
| + | | style="color: #488888" | not me | ||
| + | || [[#t03:40:39|03:40]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:41:01" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | ebaron: ksebasti: akurtakov_: you all okay for 0.3? I'll file bugs and send some follow-up mail | ||
| + | || [[#t03:41:01|03:41]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:41:17" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti | ||
| + | | style="color: #818144" | all good | ||
| + | || [[#t03:41:17|03:41]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:41:22" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | giddy-up | ||
| + | || [[#t03:41:22|03:41]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:41:28" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #42427e" | ebaron | ||
| + | | style="color: #42427e" | overholt, sounds good, i'm sure things will come up, but that's a good start | ||
| + | || [[#t03:41:28|03:41]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:41:28" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #4b904b" | akurtakov_ | ||
| + | | style="color: #4b904b" | yep, 0.3 for me is get eclipse-build as much as possible ready :) | ||
| + | || [[#t03:41:28|03:41]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:41:29" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #818144" | ksebasti | ||
| + | | style="color: #818144" | overholt, im filing some bugs i just thought of though :) | ||
| + | || [[#t03:41:29|03:41]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:41:35" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | ksebasti: thanks | ||
| + | || [[#t03:41:35|03:41]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:41:44" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | akurtakov_: great, looking forward to it! | ||
| + | || [[#t03:41:44|03:41]] | ||
| + | |- id="t03:42:02" | ||
| + | ! style="background-color: #407a40" | overholt | ||
| + | | style="color: #407a40" | alright, thanks for taking the time to talk, everyone. next time I'll bill it as a "project meeting" so others may be more interested in attending :) | ||
| + | || [[#t03:42:02|03:42]] | ||
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| overholt | open OProfile bugs: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=OProfile&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= | 03:02 |
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| overholt | open Valgrind bugs: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=Valgrind&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= | 03:02 |
| overholt | project plan: http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=technology.linux-distros | 03:02 |
| overholt | we have very little in the way of text in the project plan | 03:02 |
| overholt | and I need to fix up the bug queries to make them reflect items planned | 03:03 |
| overholt | let's start with you, ksebasti | 03:03 |
| overholt | what do you plan to do for OProfile? | 03:03 |
| overholt | we should collect all items (even long-term ones) in bugzilla | 03:03 |
| overholt | then prioritize per milestone/release | 03:04 |
| overholt | so let's file some | 03:04 |
| ebaron | sounds good | 03:04 |
| overholt | and look at the open ones | 03:04 |
| ksebasti | well after the user guide im doing now (which i think is looking pretty good :D http://wiki.eclipse.org/Linux_Tools_Project/OProfile/User_Guide) | 03:04 |
| overholt | :) | 03:04 |
| overholt | and that's bug ~272039 | 03:04 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272039 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272039 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Write OProfile plugin user documentation | 03:04 |
| ksebasti | i plan to start on ~265794 | 03:04 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 265794 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265794 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - OProfile: Start/Stop profiling manually or after given duration | 03:04 |
| overholt | okay | 03:04 |
| overholt | jjohnstn: akurtakov_: others who may be interested: we'd love to hear your thoughts on these things | 03:05 |
| overholt | crazy ideas welcome :) | 03:05 |
| ksebasti | because i can see it poking in many areas, and would make the plugin much more useful | 03:05 |
| overholt | ok | 03:05 |
| ksebasti | also add some tests to the launch plugin.. | 03:05 |
| overholt | okay | 03:05 |
| overholt | we can file these bugs afterwards | 03:06 |
| overholt | let's just talk here | 03:06 |
| ksebasti | they were mysteriously absent :) | 03:06 |
| overholt | heh | 03:06 |
| overholt | what about the hot spot colourization? | 03:06 |
| ksebasti | indeed that could probably make it too | 03:06 |
| overholt | okay | 03:06 |
| ksebasti | because theres already some code in a branch that didnt make it for 0.2 | 03:07 |
| ksebasti | but id rather have it at a lower priority than the start/stop feature | 03:07 |
| overholt | so for 0.3 OProfile we have: colourize hot spots, write documentation, and make the profiling manually controllable | 03:07 |
| overholt | so the latter two for sure | 03:07 |
| ksebasti | because its a nicety rather than a functionality thing | 03:07 |
| overholt | the first one maybe | 03:07 |
| overholt | okay with me | 03:07 |
| overholt | anyone else have an opinion? | 03:07 |
| ksebasti | oh the documentation should be done reasonably soon.. its already been a good chunk of days :p | 03:07 |
| overholt | ok | 03:08 |
| ebaron | looks good to me | 03:08 |
| jjohnstn | overholt: unfortunately I haven't played with the OProfile plugin to have any meaningful comments....I could review the user doc though | 03:08 |
| overholt | jjohnstn: that's cool. what about general profiling features you'd liek to see? | 03:08 |
| ksebasti | also ~273116 but thats just a small bug which im pretty sure is a 1-2 line fix | 03:08 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 273116 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273116 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - vmlinux text box not repopulated | 03:08 |
| overholt | with gprof coming in, we'll have to think about how to make it as general as possible | 03:08 |
| overholt | ksebasti: ok, we'll leave that targetted at 0.3 | 03:09 |
| overholt | anything else for OProfile in 0.3? Early July is the target release date for 0.3. | 03:09 |
| ksebasti | later in the cycle when policy kit 1 is out perhaps poke into ~265646 | 03:10 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 265646 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265646 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Find better way to do non-root opcontrol invocation across distros | 03:10 |
| ksebasti | and at some point i'd like to clean up (in the most general sense :-) the opxml code for future maintainers | 03:11 |
| ksebasti | and see how much of it could perhaps be used from oprofile xml output | 03:11 |
| ksebasti | and otherwise poke upstream | 03:11 |
| ksebasti | whoo 0.3 is gonna be fun ;) | 03:11 |
| overholt | :) | 03:11 |
| overholt | so realistically we're looking at ~272039, ~273116, and ~265646 | 03:12 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 265646 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265646 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Find better way to do non-root opcontrol invocation across distros | 03:12 |
| overholt | documentation, small vmlinux fix, and start/top daemon | 03:12 |
| rcjsuen | overholt: Punctuation bug still in place. ~272039 ~273116 | 03:12 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272039 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272039 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Write OProfile plugin user documentation | 03:12 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 273116 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273116 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - vmlinux text box not repopulated | 03:12 |
| overholt | rcjsuen: thanks | 03:13 |
| ksebasti | thats definitely doable | 03:13 |
| overholt | ksebasti: when the gprof contribution is cleared by legal we'll have to look at integrating that | 03:13 |
| overholt | okay, great | 03:13 |
| overholt | unless anyone else has thoughts about OProfile, we can move on to Valgrind | 03:13 |
| ksebasti | im inclined to add ~249181 because i expect the first 2 to not take very long | 03:13 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 249181 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=249181 - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Colourize hot spots in code | 03:13 |
| overholt | ksebasti: let's try to get it in but not put the milestone on. and let's leave it until the other things are done | 03:14 |
| ksebasti | overholt, righto | 03:14 |
| overholt | as usual, if people have bugs or RFEs or whatever, file away | 03:14 |
| overholt | thanks, ksebasti | 03:14 |
| overholt | ebaron: let's move on to Valgrind | 03:14 |
| overholt | ebaron: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=Valgrind&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= | 03:15 |
| ebaron | overholt, thanks | 03:15 |
| ebaron | overholt, ~272198 should be resolved now | 03:15 |
| overholt | ebaron: all of those except "Investigate CDT Debug integration" have a target of 0.3. | 03:15 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272198 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272198 - Linux Tools / Valgrind / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ebaron@redhat.com - Binary for test project does not always get built | 03:15 |
| overholt | ebaron: sweet! | 03:15 |
| overholt | ebaron: is cachegrind mostly done? | 03:16 |
| ebaron | overholt, yes | 03:16 |
| overholt | ebaron: what's up next? | 03:16 |
| ebaron | overholt, i was looking into birt charting, but that's more of a callgrind feature | 03:16 |
| ebaron | for call graphs and such | 03:16 |
| overholt | ok | 03:16 |
| ebaron | overholt, so long term, we'll have callgrind and helgrind support | 03:16 |
| overholt | okay | 03:17 |
| overholt | could one of them get into 0.3? | 03:17 |
| ebaron | overholt, i feel there are more pressing things to take care of | 03:17 |
| ebaron | overholt, ~272035 | 03:17 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272035 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272035 - Linux Tools / Valgrind / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ebaron@redhat.com - Guard against segfaults of inferior program | 03:17 |
| overholt | ebaron: okay | 03:17 |
| ebaron | overholt, this issue brought the limitations of valgrind's xml output to my attention | 03:17 |
| overholt | ebaron: alright | 03:18 |
| ebaron | i took a look at how other valgrind GUIs handle errors of this kind | 03:18 |
| overholt | yeah, that'd be interesting | 03:18 |
| overholt | so that + documentation | 03:18 |
| overholt | anything new in Valgrind 3.4.0 that we need to support? | 03:18 |
| ebaron | valgrind actually does have good signal handling, but this does not get reported with XML output | 03:18 |
| overholt | ah | 03:18 |
| ebaron | overholt, just a few new options | 03:19 |
| overholt | could that make 0.3? or is it a non-issue? | 03:19 |
| ebaron | overholt, i think moving away from xml output would be beneficial | 03:19 |
| overholt | ok | 03:19 |
| overholt | will it be as parseable | 03:19 |
| overholt | ? | 03:19 |
| ebaron | overholt, yeah 3.4.0 options for sure can make it in, i've already implemented the code for version checking | 03:20 |
| overholt | sweet | 03:20 |
| ebaron | overholt, it is parseable | 03:20 |
| overholt | alright | 03:20 |
| ebaron | alleyoop is one example of a GUI that doesn't use the xml output | 03:20 |
| overholt | okay. I guess we should do some smoke testing with galileo stuff for 0.3, too | 03:21 |
| ebaron | valkyrie, the "official" GUI for valgrind does use xml, but doesn't report segfaults or other kinds of errors | 03:21 |
| overholt | ksebasti: that goes for you, too. we're running builds against galileo deps but doing some smoke tests would be good. | 03:21 |
| overholt | ebaron: ok | 03:21 |
| overholt | so we can target 0.4 for callgrind or helgrind (whichever comes first)? | 03:21 |
| ebaron | overholt, sure | 03:21 |
| ebaron | overholt, callgrind would come first | 03:22 |
| overholt | and 0.3 for Valgrind can kind of be some further robustification | 03:22 |
| overholt | + docs + Valgrind 3.4.0 support | 03:22 |
| overholt | + the fix for ~272198 | 03:22 |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272198 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272198 - Linux Tools / Valgrind / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ebaron@redhat.com - Binary for test project does not always get built | 03:22 |
| overholt | that works for me | 03:22 |
| overholt | then 0.3's work is predictable and you will hopefully have time for 0.4-targeted features | 03:22 |
| ebaron | overholt, i think it's important since most people use memcheck, i want to ensure it works perfectly | 03:22 |
| overholt | agreed | 03:23 |
| overholt | I'm going to guess no one else have any opinions | 03:23 |
| jjohnstn | I don't | 03:23 |
| overholt | okay | 03:23 |
| overholt | s/have/has | 03:23 |
| overholt | I'll post this log somewhere and send the link to the mailing list | 03:24 |
| overholt | people may come out of the woodwork with bugs then | 03:24 |
| overholt | I'm sure we'll have bugs filed once 0.2 is out, too | 03:24 |
| ***ksebasti thinks ebaron should add a remix feature to his plugin ;) | 03:24 | |
| overholt | a remix feature? | 03:24 |
| ksebasti | virtual turntables and all! | 03:24 |
| ksebasti | </joke> | 03:24 |
| overholt | ah | 03:24 |
| overholt | for sure! | 03:25 |
| ebaron | :D | 03:25 |
| overholt | well, we're only 30 minutes into our hour. we could discuss some other sub-projects | 03:25 |
| overholt | jjohnstn: we should file some bugs for your work re-writing the autotools builder | 03:25 |
| jjohnstn | overholt: ok | 03:25 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: for 0.3 we'll try to ship eclipse-build in some form? | 03:25 |
| overholt | jjohnstn: any plans for ChangeLog or libhover in 0.3? | 03:25 |
| overholt | pmuldoon: I don't know if you're around, but Anithra has been approved as a committer and will likely start working directly in SVN soon | 03:26 |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: do we require it to produce a working eclipse for the release | 03:26 |
| overholt | pmuldoon: we should look at integrating your editor with the rest of the SystemTapGUI stuff | 03:26 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: I wonder if that should be the demarcation point where we release it for the first time? | 03:27 |
| jjohnstn | overholt: I would like to push libhover C++ and newlib for 0.3...for changelog I would like to take a look at an annoying CTRL+ALT+P bug | 03:27 |
| overholt | jjohnstn: okay, sounds good | 03:27 |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: well, before this point we actually have nothing :) | 03:27 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: do you anticipate that happening in the next 8 weeks? | 03:27 |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: at least a partially working sdk yes | 03:28 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: okay, well let's aim for that | 03:28 |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: i mean builds and starts but don't know what happens after that | 03:28 |
| akurtakov_ | :) | 03:28 |
| overholt | I'll file bugs for all of this stuff | 03:28 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: sure :) | 03:28 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: any big plans for .spec editor? | 03:28 |
| overholt | people asked for ability to build RPMs when I presented at EclipseCon | 03:29 |
| overholt | we should ensure we have bugs filed so people can hop on if they're interested | 03:29 |
| overholt | I'll do a big triage | 03:29 |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: using rpmbuild? | 03:29 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: yeah | 03:29 |
| overholt | on another distro-related note, I'd had a bit of time to look at running the SDK tests against an installed set of packages | 03:29 |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: i should take a look at the old plugins whether there is smth about building | 03:30 |
| overholt | I'd love to see if we get similar results on another distro -- preferably non-RPM -- but that'll take some coercion I expect :) | 03:30 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: yeah, we should see if we can use any of that code | 03:30 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: perhaps target 0.4 with some rudimentary RPM building | 03:30 |
| overholt | not 0.3 | 03:30 |
| overholt | if anyone notices, I'm being conservative with estimates here | 03:30 |
| overholt | I want our project to be predictable as much as possible | 03:31 |
| overholt | hopefully that will get us some more contributors | 03:31 |
| overholt | or at the very least adopters | 03:31 |
| overholt | the Ericsson guys are going to start work on their tracing stuff soon, I expect | 03:31 |
| overholt | they were talking about it at EclipseCon | 03:32 |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: i still want to get a form based editor but eclipse-build is taking my time | 03:32 |
| jjohnstn | overholt: was there ever a feature opened to make the rpm spec editor a RCP application? | 03:32 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: yeah, a form-based editor would be cool | 03:32 |
| overholt | jjohnstn: no, but that' s a neat idea | 03:32 |
| overholt | I don't think the non-RPM-based distros are ready for something like stubby yet, but it would be neat. maybe after akurtakov_ & co. have eclipse-build out there, more distros will pick it up | 03:33 |
| overholt | then they'll be at the stage of packaging other plugins | 03:33 |
| overholt | I'm going to write a little bit of "getting started" text for people not familiar with Eclipse plugin installation | 03:33 |
| overholt | oh, and the gprof contribution is undergoing legal review | 03:34 |
| overholt | but that'll hopefully be finished soon | 03:34 |
| overholt | then Xavier & co. can work in SVN | 03:34 |
| overholt | maybe that can make 0.3, actually | 03:35 |
| akurtakov_ | exherbo packaging file is quite similar in structure to spec file | 03:35 |
| overholt | I played around with it | 03:35 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: I'm not familiar with exherbo | 03:35 |
| akurtakov_ | so stubby would fit for them nicely | 03:35 |
| overholt | that's good | 03:35 |
| overholt | the gprof plugin as it stands opens up gprof output files | 03:35 |
| overholt | I'd love to see a standard way of using various profiling "backends" | 03:35 |
| overholt | ksebasti: does post-processing analysis make sense for OProfile? | 03:35 |
| ksebasti | what sort of post processing? | 03:36 |
| overholt | ksebasti: like saving the output in a file or something and then opening it up with an Eclipse view | 03:36 |
| overholt | I guess I meant post-execution analysis | 03:36 |
| overholt | I guess that's what we do now | 03:36 |
| ksebasti | the sample files are generated by oprofile and already there | 03:37 |
| overholt | I guess gprof doesn't do that | 03:37 |
| overholt | we'll have to see where things overlap and where they differ | 03:37 |
| overholt | I don't really have anything else to talk about | 03:37 |
| overholt | our 0.2 release is scheduled for review on May 6th | 03:38 |
| overholt | the slides are done and so's the N&N thanks to everyone | 03:38 |
| overholt | our builds are now producing p2 repositories | 03:38 |
| overholt | updates-nightly gets updated automatically with these | 03:38 |
| overholt | you may notice there's no site.xml anymore | 03:38 |
| overholt | that's because p2 repositories use content.jar (which is basically just a zip of content.xml) | 03:39 |
| overholt | oh, and we're down to 0 warnings | 03:39 |
| jjohnstn | cool | 03:39 |
| overholt | thanks for the work there, jjohnstn | 03:39 |
| jjohnstn | np | 03:39 |
| overholt | Hudson on build.eclipse.org is accessible to all | 03:39 |
| overholt | you can use your committer username/password to log in | 03:39 |
| overholt | I think I set everyone to have the permission to start builds | 03:39 |
| overholt | they happen automatically every 6 hours | 03:40 |
| overholt | i think that's all I have to say | 03:40 |
| overholt | anyone else? | 03:40 |
| jjohnstn | not me | 03:40 |
| overholt | ebaron: ksebasti: akurtakov_: you all okay for 0.3? I'll file bugs and send some follow-up mail | 03:41 |
| ksebasti | all good | 03:41 |
| overholt | giddy-up | 03:41 |
| ebaron | overholt, sounds good, i'm sure things will come up, but that's a good start | 03:41 |
| akurtakov_ | yep, 0.3 for me is get eclipse-build as much as possible ready :) | 03:41 |
| ksebasti | overholt, im filing some bugs i just thought of though :) | 03:41 |
| overholt | ksebasti: thanks | 03:41 |
| overholt | akurtakov_: great, looking forward to it! | 03:41 |
| overholt | alright, thanks for taking the time to talk, everyone. next time I'll bill it as a "project meeting" so others may be more interested in attending :) | 03:42 |
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