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Linux Tools Project/0.3 Planning Log
| overholt | open OProfile bugs: <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=OProfile&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=OProfile&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=</a> | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:02:06" class="time">15:02</a> |
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| overholt | open Valgrind bugs: <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=Valgrind&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=Valgrind&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=</a> | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:02:14" class="time">15:02</a> |
| overholt | project plan: <a href="http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=technology.linux-distros">http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project-plan.php?projectid=technology.linux-distros</a> | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:02:23" class="time">15:02</a> |
| overholt | we have very little in the way of text in the project plan | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:02:38" class="time">15:02</a> |
| overholt | and I need to fix up the bug queries to make them reflect items planned | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:03:33" class="time">15:03</a> |
| overholt | let's start with you, ksebasti | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:03:39" class="time">15:03</a> |
| overholt | what do you plan to do for OProfile? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:03:47" class="time">15:03</a> |
| overholt | we should collect all items (even long-term ones) in bugzilla | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:03:54" class="time">15:03</a> |
| overholt | then prioritize per milestone/release | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:04" class="time">15:04</a> |
| overholt | so let's file some | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:06" class="time">15:04</a> |
| ebaron | sounds good | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:11" class="time">15:04</a> |
| overholt | and look at the open ones | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:11" class="time">15:04</a> |
| ksebasti | well after the user guide im doing now (which i think is looking pretty good :D <a href="http://wiki.eclipse.org/Linux_Tools_Project/OProfile/User_Guide">http://wiki.eclipse.org/Linux_Tools_Project/OProfile/User_Guide</a>) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:22" class="time">15:04</a> |
| overholt | :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:27" class="time">15:04</a> |
| overholt | and that's bug ~272039 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:44" class="time">15:04</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272039 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272039">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272039</a> - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Write OProfile plugin user documentation | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:45" class="time">15:04</a> |
| ksebasti | i plan to start on ~265794 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:51" class="time">15:04</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 265794 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265794">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265794</a> - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - OProfile: Start/Stop profiling manually or after given duration | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:52" class="time">15:04</a> |
| overholt | okay | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:04:57" class="time">15:04</a> |
| overholt | jjohnstn: akurtakov_: others who may be interested: we'd love to hear your thoughts on these things | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:05:13" class="time">15:05</a> |
| overholt | crazy ideas welcome :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:05:18" class="time">15:05</a> |
| ksebasti | because i can see it poking in many areas, and would make the plugin much more useful | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:05:27" class="time">15:05</a> |
| overholt | ok | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:05:36" class="time">15:05</a> |
| ksebasti | also add some tests to the launch plugin.. | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:05:52" class="time">15:05</a> |
| overholt | okay | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:05:57" class="time">15:05</a> |
| overholt | we can file these bugs afterwards | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:06:01" class="time">15:06</a> |
| overholt | let's just talk here | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:06:04" class="time">15:06</a> |
| ksebasti | they were mysteriously absent :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:06:04" class="time">15:06</a> |
| overholt | heh | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:06:15" class="time">15:06</a> |
| overholt | what about the hot spot colourization? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:06:21" class="time">15:06</a> |
| ksebasti | indeed that could probably make it too | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:06:45" class="time">15:06</a> |
| overholt | okay | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:06:54" class="time">15:06</a> |
| ksebasti | because theres already some code in a branch that didnt make it for 0.2 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:07:01" class="time">15:07</a> |
| ksebasti | but id rather have it at a lower priority than the start/stop feature | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:07:18" class="time">15:07</a> |
| overholt | so for 0.3 OProfile we have: colourize hot spots, write documentation, and make the profiling manually controllable | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:07:26" class="time">15:07</a> |
| overholt | so the latter two for sure | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:07:32" class="time">15:07</a> |
| ksebasti | because its a nicety rather than a functionality thing | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:07:35" class="time">15:07</a> |
| overholt | the first one maybe | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:07:37" class="time">15:07</a> |
| overholt | okay with me | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:07:42" class="time">15:07</a> |
| overholt | anyone else have an opinion? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:07:46" class="time">15:07</a> |
| ksebasti | oh the documentation should be done reasonably soon.. its already been a good chunk of days :p | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:07:58" class="time">15:07</a> |
| overholt | ok | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:08:12" class="time">15:08</a> |
| ebaron | looks good to me | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:08:12" class="time">15:08</a> |
| jjohnstn | overholt: unfortunately I haven't played with the OProfile plugin to have any meaningful comments....I could review the user doc though | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:08:14" class="time">15:08</a> |
| overholt | jjohnstn: that's cool. what about general profiling features you'd liek to see? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:08:36" class="time">15:08</a> |
| ksebasti | also ~273116 but thats just a small bug which im pretty sure is a 1-2 line fix | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:08:39" class="time">15:08</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 273116 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273116">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273116</a> - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - vmlinux text box not repopulated | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:08:39" class="time">15:08</a> |
| overholt | with gprof coming in, we'll have to think about how to make it as general as possible | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:08:54" class="time">15:08</a> |
| overholt | ksebasti: ok, we'll leave that targetted at 0.3 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:09:06" class="time">15:09</a> |
| overholt | anything else for OProfile in 0.3? Early July is the target release date for 0.3. | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:09:57" class="time">15:09</a> |
| ksebasti | later in the cycle when policy kit 1 is out perhaps poke into ~265646 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:10:29" class="time">15:10</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 265646 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265646">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265646</a> - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Find better way to do non-root opcontrol invocation across distros | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:10:29" class="time">15:10</a> |
| ksebasti | and at some point i'd like to clean up (in the most general sense :-) the opxml code for future maintainers | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:11:11" class="time">15:11</a> |
| ksebasti | and see how much of it could perhaps be used from oprofile xml output | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:11:24" class="time">15:11</a> |
| ksebasti | and otherwise poke upstream | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:11:32" class="time">15:11</a> |
| ksebasti | whoo 0.3 is gonna be fun ;) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:11:50" class="time">15:11</a> |
| overholt | :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:11:52" class="time">15:11</a> |
| overholt | so realistically we're looking at ~272039, ~273116, and ~265646 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:12:33" class="time">15:12</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 265646 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265646">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=265646</a> - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Find better way to do non-root opcontrol invocation across distros | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:12:35" class="time">15:12</a> |
| overholt | documentation, small vmlinux fix, and start/top daemon | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:12:52" class="time">15:12</a> |
| rcjsuen | overholt: Punctuation bug still in place. ~272039 ~273116 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:12:54" class="time">15:12</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272039 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272039">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272039</a> - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Write OProfile plugin user documentation | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:12:54" class="time">15:12</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 273116 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273116">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=273116</a> - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - vmlinux text box not repopulated | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:12:54" class="time">15:12</a> |
| overholt | rcjsuen: thanks | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:13:02" class="time">15:13</a> |
| ksebasti | thats definitely doable | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:13:30" class="time">15:13</a> |
| overholt | ksebasti: when the gprof contribution is cleared by legal we'll have to look at integrating that | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:13:32" class="time">15:13</a> |
| overholt | okay, great | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:13:33" class="time">15:13</a> |
| overholt | unless anyone else has thoughts about OProfile, we can move on to Valgrind | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:13:45" class="time">15:13</a> |
| ksebasti | im inclined to add ~249181 because i expect the first 2 to not take very long | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:13:48" class="time">15:13</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 249181 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=249181">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=249181</a> - Linux Tools / OProfile / unspecified - PC / Linux - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: ksebasti@redhat.com - Colourize hot spots in code | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:13:48" class="time">15:13</a> |
| overholt | ksebasti: let's try to get it in but not put the milestone on. and let's leave it until the other things are done | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:14:10" class="time">15:14</a> |
| ksebasti | overholt, righto | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:14:48" class="time">15:14</a> |
| overholt | as usual, if people have bugs or RFEs or whatever, file away | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:14:49" class="time">15:14</a> |
| overholt | thanks, ksebasti | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:14:51" class="time">15:14</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: let's move on to Valgrind | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:14:55" class="time">15:14</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=Valgrind&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&classification=Technology&product=Linux+Tools&component=Valgrind&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=</a> | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:15:03" class="time">15:15</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, thanks | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:15:11" class="time">15:15</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, ~272198 should be resolved now | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:15:34" class="time">15:15</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: all of those except "Investigate CDT Debug integration" have a target of 0.3. | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:15:35" class="time">15:15</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272198 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272198">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272198</a> - Linux Tools / Valgrind / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ebaron@redhat.com - Binary for test project does not always get built | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:15:35" class="time">15:15</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: sweet! | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:15:41" class="time">15:15</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: is cachegrind mostly done? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:16:02" class="time">15:16</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, yes | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:16:07" class="time">15:16</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: what's up next? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:16:08" class="time">15:16</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, i was looking into birt charting, but that's more of a callgrind feature | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:16:31" class="time">15:16</a> |
| ebaron | for call graphs and such | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:16:34" class="time">15:16</a> |
| overholt | ok | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:16:39" class="time">15:16</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, so long term, we'll have callgrind and helgrind support | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:16:57" class="time">15:16</a> |
| overholt | okay | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:17:03" class="time">15:17</a> |
| overholt | could one of them get into 0.3? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:17:09" class="time">15:17</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, i feel there are more pressing things to take care of | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:17:27" class="time">15:17</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, ~272035 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:17:37" class="time">15:17</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272035 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272035">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272035</a> - Linux Tools / Valgrind / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ebaron@redhat.com - Guard against segfaults of inferior program | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:17:38" class="time">15:17</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: okay | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:17:52" class="time">15:17</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, this issue brought the limitations of valgrind's xml output to my attention | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:17:57" class="time">15:17</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: alright | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:18:20" class="time">15:18</a> |
| ebaron | i took a look at how other valgrind GUIs handle errors of this kind | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:18:21" class="time">15:18</a> |
| overholt | yeah, that'd be interesting | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:18:27" class="time">15:18</a> |
| overholt | so that + documentation | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:18:38" class="time">15:18</a> |
| overholt | anything new in Valgrind 3.4.0 that we need to support? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:18:53" class="time">15:18</a> |
| ebaron | valgrind actually does have good signal handling, but this does not get reported with XML output | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:18:53" class="time">15:18</a> |
| overholt | ah | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:18:58" class="time">15:18</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, just a few new options | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:19:01" class="time">15:19</a> |
| overholt | could that make 0.3? or is it a non-issue? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:19:34" class="time">15:19</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, i think moving away from xml output would be beneficial | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:19:38" class="time">15:19</a> |
| overholt | ok | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:19:51" class="time">15:19</a> |
| overholt | will it be as parseable | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:19:57" class="time">15:19</a> |
| overholt | ? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:19:58" class="time">15:19</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, yeah 3.4.0 options for sure can make it in, i've already implemented the code for version checking | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:20:01" class="time">15:20</a> |
| overholt | sweet | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:20:08" class="time">15:20</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, it is parseable | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:20:37" class="time">15:20</a> |
| overholt | alright | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:20:42" class="time">15:20</a> |
| ebaron | alleyoop is one example of a GUI that doesn't use the xml output | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:20:53" class="time">15:20</a> |
| overholt | okay. I guess we should do some smoke testing with galileo stuff for 0.3, too | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:21:12" class="time">15:21</a> |
| ebaron | valkyrie, the "official" GUI for valgrind does use xml, but doesn't report segfaults or other kinds of errors | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:21:22" class="time">15:21</a> |
| overholt | ksebasti: that goes for you, too. we're running builds against galileo deps but doing some smoke tests would be good. | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:21:25" class="time">15:21</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: ok | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:21:32" class="time">15:21</a> |
| overholt | so we can target 0.4 for callgrind or helgrind (whichever comes first)? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:21:53" class="time">15:21</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, sure | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:21:58" class="time">15:21</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, callgrind would come first | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:22:04" class="time">15:22</a> |
| overholt | and 0.3 for Valgrind can kind of be some further robustification | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:22:07" class="time">15:22</a> |
| overholt | + docs + Valgrind 3.4.0 support | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:22:16" class="time">15:22</a> |
| overholt | + the fix for ~272198 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:22:25" class="time">15:22</a> |
| KOS-MOS | Bug 272198 - <a href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272198">https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272198</a> - Linux Tools / Valgrind / unspecified - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee: ebaron@redhat.com - Binary for test project does not always get built | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:22:26" class="time">15:22</a> |
| overholt | that works for me | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:22:31" class="time">15:22</a> |
| overholt | then 0.3's work is predictable and you will hopefully have time for 0.4-targeted features | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:22:49" class="time">15:22</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, i think it's important since most people use memcheck, i want to ensure it works perfectly | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:22:59" class="time">15:22</a> |
| overholt | agreed | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:23:03" class="time">15:23</a> |
| overholt | I'm going to guess no one else have any opinions | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:23:31" class="time">15:23</a> |
| jjohnstn | I don't | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:23:38" class="time">15:23</a> |
| overholt | okay | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:23:42" class="time">15:23</a> |
| overholt | s/have/has | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:23:49" class="time">15:23</a> |
| overholt | I'll post this log somewhere and send the link to the mailing list | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:24:02" class="time">15:24</a> |
| overholt | people may come out of the woodwork with bugs then | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:24:10" class="time">15:24</a> |
| overholt | I'm sure we'll have bugs filed once 0.2 is out, too | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:24:21" class="time">15:24</a> |
| ***ksebasti thinks ebaron should add a remix feature to his plugin ;) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:24:34" class="time">15:24</a> | |
| overholt | a remix feature? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:24:48" class="time">15:24</a> |
| ksebasti | virtual turntables and all! | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:24:51" class="time">15:24</a> |
| ksebasti | </joke> | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:24:57" class="time">15:24</a> |
| overholt | ah | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:24:59" class="time">15:24</a> |
| overholt | for sure! | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:25:02" class="time">15:25</a> |
| ebaron | :D | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:25:16" class="time">15:25</a> |
| overholt | well, we're only 30 minutes into our hour. we could discuss some other sub-projects | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:25:19" class="time">15:25</a> |
| overholt | jjohnstn: we should file some bugs for your work re-writing the autotools builder | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:25:31" class="time">15:25</a> |
| jjohnstn | overholt: ok | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:25:41" class="time">15:25</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: for 0.3 we'll try to ship eclipse-build in some form? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:25:42" class="time">15:25</a> |
| overholt | jjohnstn: any plans for ChangeLog or libhover in 0.3? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:25:59" class="time">15:25</a> |
| overholt | pmuldoon: I don't know if you're around, but Anithra has been approved as a committer and will likely start working directly in SVN soon | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:26:29" class="time">15:26</a> |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: do we require it to produce a working eclipse for the release | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:26:43" class="time">15:26</a> |
| overholt | pmuldoon: we should look at integrating your editor with the rest of the SystemTapGUI stuff | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:26:47" class="time">15:26</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: I wonder if that should be the demarcation point where we release it for the first time? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:27:02" class="time">15:27</a> |
| jjohnstn | overholt: I would like to push libhover C++ and newlib for 0.3...for changelog I would like to take a look at an annoying CTRL+ALT+P bug | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:27:04" class="time">15:27</a> |
| overholt | jjohnstn: okay, sounds good | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:27:16" class="time">15:27</a> |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: well, before this point we actually have nothing :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:27:23" class="time">15:27</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: do you anticipate that happening in the next 8 weeks? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:27:37" class="time">15:27</a> |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: at least a partially working sdk yes | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:28:00" class="time">15:28</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: okay, well let's aim for that | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:28:15" class="time">15:28</a> |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: i mean builds and starts but don't know what happens after that | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:28:26" class="time">15:28</a> |
| akurtakov_ | :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:28:30" class="time">15:28</a> |
| overholt | I'll file bugs for all of this stuff | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:28:32" class="time">15:28</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: sure :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:28:35" class="time">15:28</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: any big plans for .spec editor? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:28:42" class="time">15:28</a> |
| overholt | people asked for ability to build RPMs when I presented at EclipseCon | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:29:06" class="time">15:29</a> |
| overholt | we should ensure we have bugs filed so people can hop on if they're interested | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:29:21" class="time">15:29</a> |
| overholt | I'll do a big triage | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:29:24" class="time">15:29</a> |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: using rpmbuild? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:29:28" class="time">15:29</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: yeah | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:29:31" class="time">15:29</a> |
| overholt | on another distro-related note, I'd had a bit of time to look at running the SDK tests against an installed set of packages | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:29:53" class="time">15:29</a> |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: i should take a look at the old plugins whether there is smth about building | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:30:16" class="time">15:30</a> |
| overholt | I'd love to see if we get similar results on another distro -- preferably non-RPM -- but that'll take some coercion I expect :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:30:21" class="time">15:30</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: yeah, we should see if we can use any of that code | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:30:31" class="time">15:30</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: perhaps target 0.4 with some rudimentary RPM building | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:30:40" class="time">15:30</a> |
| overholt | not 0.3 | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:30:45" class="time">15:30</a> |
| overholt | if anyone notices, I'm being conservative with estimates here | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:30:58" class="time">15:30</a> |
| overholt | I want our project to be predictable as much as possible | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:31:08" class="time">15:31</a> |
| overholt | hopefully that will get us some more contributors | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:31:14" class="time">15:31</a> |
| overholt | or at the very least adopters | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:31:22" class="time">15:31</a> |
| overholt | the Ericsson guys are going to start work on their tracing stuff soon, I expect | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:31:55" class="time">15:31</a> |
| overholt | they were talking about it at EclipseCon | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:32:01" class="time">15:32</a> |
| akurtakov_ | overholt: i still want to get a form based editor but eclipse-build is taking my time | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:32:01" class="time">15:32</a> |
| jjohnstn | overholt: was there ever a feature opened to make the rpm spec editor a RCP application? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:32:01" class="time">15:32</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: yeah, a form-based editor would be cool | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:32:12" class="time">15:32</a> |
| overholt | jjohnstn: no, but that' s a neat idea | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:32:18" class="time">15:32</a> |
| overholt | I don't think the non-RPM-based distros are ready for something like stubby yet, but it would be neat. maybe after akurtakov_ & co. have eclipse-build out there, more distros will pick it up | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:33:09" class="time">15:33</a> |
| overholt | then they'll be at the stage of packaging other plugins | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:33:20" class="time">15:33</a> |
| overholt | I'm going to write a little bit of "getting started" text for people not familiar with Eclipse plugin installation | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:33:56" class="time">15:33</a> |
| overholt | oh, and the gprof contribution is undergoing legal review | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:34:33" class="time">15:34</a> |
| overholt | but that'll hopefully be finished soon | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:34:45" class="time">15:34</a> |
| overholt | then Xavier & co. can work in SVN | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:34:56" class="time">15:34</a> |
| overholt | maybe that can make 0.3, actually | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:35:00" class="time">15:35</a> |
| akurtakov_ | exherbo packaging file is quite similar in structure to spec file | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:35:03" class="time">15:35</a> |
| overholt | I played around with it | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:35:03" class="time">15:35</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: I'm not familiar with exherbo | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:35:14" class="time">15:35</a> |
| akurtakov_ | so stubby would fit for them nicely | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:35:15" class="time">15:35</a> |
| overholt | that's good | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:35:19" class="time">15:35</a> |
| overholt | the gprof plugin as it stands opens up gprof output files | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:35:28" class="time">15:35</a> |
| overholt | I'd love to see a standard way of using various profiling "backends" | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:35:44" class="time">15:35</a> |
| overholt | ksebasti: does post-processing analysis make sense for OProfile? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:35:59" class="time">15:35</a> |
| ksebasti | what sort of post processing? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:36:17" class="time">15:36</a> |
| overholt | ksebasti: like saving the output in a file or something and then opening it up with an Eclipse view | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:36:30" class="time">15:36</a> |
| overholt | I guess I meant post-execution analysis | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:36:42" class="time">15:36</a> |
| overholt | I guess that's what we do now | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:36:48" class="time">15:36</a> |
| ksebasti | the sample files are generated by oprofile and already there | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:37:02" class="time">15:37</a> |
| overholt | I guess gprof doesn't do that | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:37:10" class="time">15:37</a> |
| overholt | we'll have to see where things overlap and where they differ | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:37:28" class="time">15:37</a> |
| overholt | I don't really have anything else to talk about | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:37:53" class="time">15:37</a> |
| overholt | our 0.2 release is scheduled for review on May 6th | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:38:00" class="time">15:38</a> |
| overholt | the slides are done and so's the N&N thanks to everyone | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:38:12" class="time">15:38</a> |
| overholt | our builds are now producing p2 repositories | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:38:26" class="time">15:38</a> |
| overholt | updates-nightly gets updated automatically with these | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:38:36" class="time">15:38</a> |
| overholt | you may notice there's no site.xml anymore | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:38:45" class="time">15:38</a> |
| overholt | that's because p2 repositories use content.jar (which is basically just a zip of content.xml) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:39:05" class="time">15:39</a> |
| overholt | oh, and we're down to 0 warnings | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:39:14" class="time">15:39</a> |
| jjohnstn | cool | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:39:20" class="time">15:39</a> |
| overholt | thanks for the work there, jjohnstn | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:39:20" class="time">15:39</a> |
| jjohnstn | np | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:39:27" class="time">15:39</a> |
| overholt | Hudson on build.eclipse.org is accessible to all | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:39:38" class="time">15:39</a> |
| overholt | you can use your committer username/password to log in | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:39:51" class="time">15:39</a> |
| overholt | I think I set everyone to have the permission to start builds | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:39:59" class="time">15:39</a> |
| overholt | they happen automatically every 6 hours | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:40:05" class="time">15:40</a> |
| overholt | i think that's all I have to say | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:40:22" class="time">15:40</a> |
| overholt | anyone else? | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:40:25" class="time">15:40</a> |
| jjohnstn | not me | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:40:39" class="time">15:40</a> |
| overholt | ebaron: ksebasti: akurtakov_: you all okay for 0.3? I'll file bugs and send some follow-up mail | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:41:01" class="time">15:41</a> |
| ksebasti | all good | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:41:17" class="time">15:41</a> |
| overholt | giddy-up | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:41:22" class="time">15:41</a> |
| ebaron | overholt, sounds good, i'm sure things will come up, but that's a good start | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:41:28" class="time">15:41</a> |
| akurtakov_ | yep, 0.3 for me is get eclipse-build as much as possible ready :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:41:28" class="time">15:41</a> |
| ksebasti | overholt, im filing some bugs i just thought of though :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:41:29" class="time">15:41</a> |
| overholt | ksebasti: thanks | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:41:35" class="time">15:41</a> |
| overholt | akurtakov_: great, looking forward to it! | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:41:44" class="time">15:41</a> |
| overholt | alright, thanks for taking the time to talk, everyone. next time I'll bill it as a "project meeting" so others may be more interested in attending :) | <a href="#t2009-04-22T15:42:02" class="time">15:42</a> |
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